Wala ba talagang "morality" ang mga Atheist?

[Cerebellum]

Anong ibig sabihin ng mga atheist sa pagsasabi nilang wala silang "morality"?

Kasi, kung titingnan ang meaning ng "morality", eto yung definition niya:

- principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior.​

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- a particular system of values and principles of conduct, especially one held by a specified person or society.​

How can it be na dahil hindi sila naniniwala sa isang Diyos or sa Bible or any holy books eh does that mean na wala silang morality, or principle na nagga-guide sa kanila para malaman ang tama at maling gawain?

Hmmm ..

 

[BT-X]

Syempre meron.. FYI morality is not solely hinged on religious belief... Also the definition of morality does not have anything to do with any theological belief

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Human ang atheist. Alam nila ang tama at mali, mabuti at masama. Nasa human nature na natin iyon. Tutal nang hindi pa dumadating ang relihiyon, atheist na po ang mga tao noon unang panahon. Namulat lang sila as years go by na meron pa lang afterlife and so nagkaroon ng God at Goddess sa belief system nila and hindi nagtagal, nawala na ang Goddess at ang pumalit ay ang God na in a modern society.

Actually, meron mga sina unang tao na itinagurian philosopher katulad ng confucianism, taoism- maraming iba pa pero mga non-theistic po sila. There is no God and yet napapagana naman ng matiwasay ang society na nasasakupan nila.

Buddhism ay non theistic din sila.

Wala naman kilalaman sa God ng relihiyon kung bakit nag-eexist ang morality. The reason why nag-exist ang relihiyon na meron God dahil it was constructed by society based on kung ano ang mabuti at masama, tama at mali para sa mga tao generally as a whole.

Sabi nga, ang moral is considered tama o mabuti o normal kapag acceptable siya ng marami which is totoo.

Example sa North Korea. Atheist country iyon at walang relihiyon so moral na meron sa society na iyon ay iba ang tama at mabuti sa kanila na iba sa moral na tinatangkilik ng meron theistic society. Though parang God na ang leader nila ng North Korea.​

 

[Cerebellum]

Syempre meron.. FYI morality is not solely hinged on religious belief... Also the definition of morality does not have anything to do with any theological belief

Yun nga po yung point ko po .. if it is not hinged on religious belief, what kind of morality yung meron sila? Or yun po yung tipo na basta kung ano naisip nilang tama at mali, yun na po yon?

 

[BT-X]

Yun nga po yung point ko po .. if it is not hinged on religious belief, what kind of morality yung meron sila? Or yun po yung tipo na basta kung ano naisip nilang tama at mali, yun na po yon?

Actually, depende parin sa isang atheist kung meron o wala..kasi tao sila, it's their choice to follow a certain standard of morality whatever that standard is or not follow anything at all.. all boils down to personal choice and we cannot account how everyone thinks and box them in a specific manner i.e. "kapag atheist walang morality".. i think that kind of judgment is naive..morality is something that varies from culture to culture, one set of morality from one culture may be perceived as immoral by another culture.. very chicken and egg yung question mo TS but it's a good avenue to hear everyone's thoughts

 

[copro14]

Yun nga po yung point ko po .. if it is not hinged on religious belief, what kind of morality yung meron sila? Or yun po yung tipo na basta kung ano naisip nilang tama at mali, yun na po yon?

Galing

 

[Cerebellum]

Actually, depende parin sa isang atheist kung meron o wala..kasi tao sila, it's their choice to follow a certain standard of morality whatever that standard is or not follow anything at all.. all boils down to personal choice and we cannot account how everyone thinks and box them in a specific manner i.e. "kapag atheist walang morality".. i think that kind of judgment is naive..morality is something that varies from culture to culture, one set of morality from one culture may be perceived as immoral by another culture.. very chicken and egg yung question mo TS but it's a good avenue to hear everyone's thoughts

hindi ko naman po sinabing 'wala silang morality' but there are some atheists who thinks that they had none of this what so called morality .. lalo na kung ito daw ay dahil sa paniniwala sa Diyos ..

 

[plhbg1]

ang wala sa mga non-theists ay source or basihan ng kanilang morality kumbaga blank, so if blank pwede lagyan ng kahit anu even the bearer can inject anything, sabi ko nga ako nagsi-set kung anu ang tama since i don't recognize the bible as authority

 

[Cerebellum]

if blank pwede lagyan ng kahit anu even the bearer can inject anything

tampering ba tawag sa ganun? hehe

 

[plhbg1]

tampering ba tawag sa ganun? hehe

matagal na ginagamit ang tampering lalo na sa mga unang panahon na almost all knowledge have not yet been discovered, ang daming blanks noon e kaya kahit anung papasok sa isip ng mga tao noon ay tama, so why not continue the habit and maximize our free will, tamper pa more haha except you ata kasi meron kayo higher authority sa buhay niyo

we can say tampered knowledge since the knowledge we get is not acquired through or using science

 

[Cerebellum]

matagal na ginagamit ang tampering lalo na sa mga unang panahon na almost all knowledge have not yet been discovered, ang daming blanks noon e kaya kahit anung papasok sa isip ng mga tao noon ay tama, so why not continue the habit and maximize our free will, tamper pa more haha except you ata kasi meron kayo higher authority sa buhay niyo

we can say tampered knowledge since the knowledge we get is not acquired through science

So, masama ba ang tampering or hindi, since kahit morality naman pala puwede rin tampered?

 

[plhbg1]

So, masama ba ang tampering or hindi, since kahit morality naman pala puwede rin tampered?

tampered knowledge has no harm if you are always ready to discard it when science is nag-iingay na about it from being silent, secondly, you should use tampered knowledge for your own consumption and should not be an authority to a person other than yourself

 

[Cerebellum]

tampered knowledge has no harm if you are always ready to discard it when science is nag-iingay na about it from being silent, secondly, you should use tampered knowledge for your own consumption and should not be an authority to a person other than yourself

ah okay, so personal consumption lang pala yung tampered knowledge ..

 

[plhbg1]

ah okay, so personal consumption lang pala yung tampered knowledge ..

oo that is why i don't recognize the bible as authority since most of it are not scientific and why would i enslave myself to the tampered knowledge of those writers

 

[Cerebellum]

Why would i enslave myself to the tampered knowledge of those writers

hmmm .. pero same din naman sa ginagawa mo po diba? tampering ..

or gaya sa kasabihan, "ang magnanakaw, galit sa kapuwa magnanakaw"

parang ganiyan siya pero iniba ng konti hehehe .. "tampered people eh galit sa tampered knowledge" ? hehehehe

 

[plhbg1]

hmmm .. pero same din naman sa ginagawa mo po diba? tampering ..

or gaya sa kasabihan, "ang magnanakaw, galit sa kapuwa magnanakaw"

parang ganiyan siya pero iniba ng konti hehehe .. "tampered people eh galit sa tampered knowledge" ? hehehehe

people and knowledge belong to different categories, dapat tampered knowledge against tampered knowledge

we both do tampering but i don't enslave people with my tampered knowledge, sabi ko nga tampered knowledge has no harm under specific conditions

 

[Cerebellum]

people and knowledge belong to different categories, dapat tampered knowledge against tampered knowledge

bakit yung knowledge mo po ba about morality eh hindi tampered?

tampered knowledge against tampered knowledge

should I say, people who has a tampered knowledge eh against sa tampered knowledge?

 

[plhbg1]

bakit yung knowledge mo po ba about morality eh hindi tampered?

tampered iyon kasi ako lang nag set, but it is solely for my own consumption

should I say, people who has a tampered knowledge eh against sa tampered knowledge?

i am not against to anyone's tampered knowledge as long as it does not enslave me dahil meron ako sariling tampered knowledge, the bible has enslave me for 19 years and now have realized how stu̾pid i am on those years

 

[Cerebellum]

tampered iyon kasi ako lang nag set, but it is solely for my own consumption


i am not against to anyone's tampered knowledge as long as it does not enslave me dahil meron ako sariling tampered knowledge, the bible has enslave me for 19 years and now have realized how stu̾pid i am on those years

aaaah .. so, ikaw na lang nagset ng sarili mong morality?


Akala ko kasi wala ka pong morality .. but do you think, your principles eh influenced din ng ibang mga bagay, like science, moral standards ng mga taong nakakasalamuha mo, at iba pa bukod sa sarili mong set ng morality?

 

[plhbg1]

aaaah .. so, ikaw na lang nagset ng sarili mong morality?

yeah since i don't have a higher authority na nagsi-set ng morals for me

Akala ko kasi wala ka pong morality .. but do you think, your principles eh influenced din ng ibang mga bagay, like science, moral standards ng mga taong nakakasalamuha mo, at iba pa bukod sa sarili mong set ng morality?

hmm maybe nung theist pa ako ang dali kong ma-influence, but now i tend to control who or what can influence me, i am chosing people to agree with and also i am choosing places where i could agree, like you i am exposed to you hehe but until you make me agree with you then i continue to be in the opposite, choosing is the key, influence is real but you always have an option to choose which of them is appropriate