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KINAKAILANGAN BA NA MAGING MIYEMBRO NG IGLESIYA UPANG MALIGTAS?
by Preacher Mark Admin

Ang Iglesiyang tinutukoy sa artikulong ito ay hindi ang relihiyon na unang pumapasok sa isipan ng lahat, kundi ang Iglesiyang si Kristo mismo ang nagtatag na kahit ang tarangkahan ng impiyerno ay hindi makapananaig dito (Matthew 16:18); kaya't malabong ang Iglesiyang nawala at muling nanumbalik "raw" ay maging totoong Iglesiya, tarangkahan nga ng impiyerno hindi nakapanaig, pag-uusig at kasamaan pa kaya ng tao?

Pero balik tayo sa pinag-uusapan...

Kinakailangan nga ba na maging miyembro muna ng Iglesiya bago maligtas? Ang malinaw na sagot ay HINDI.

Bakit nga ba hindi?

1. Dahil walang perpektong Iglesiya, ang perpekto lamang ay si Kristo na nagtatag nito. Kung ang Iglesiya ay may kapintasan, hindi ito maaaring maging daan sa ikaliligtas ng kaluluwa ng tao.

2. Ang kaligtasan ay hindi kailan man nagbabago, at ito ay sa pamamagitan pa rin ng PANANAMPALATAYA. Si Abraham ay hindi naging bahagi ng Iglesiya, ni hindi naabutan ang pagtatatag nito, ngunit naligtas dahil sa kaniyang pananamapalataya sa Diyos (Romans 4:3). Kung naligtas si Abraham at ang kasamang nakapako sa krus na nanampalataya kay Hesus nang hindi nagiging miyembro ng Iglesiya, samakatuwid, ang Iglesiya'y hindi daan sa ikaliligtas ng tao.

3. Hindi kailan man magliligtas ang Iglesiya, ngunit ang mga tunay na naligtas ay idinadagdag sa Iglesiya na siyang mga tinubos ni Kristo sa pamamagitan ng Kaniyang walang-salang dugo.

Acts 20:28 KJV
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Acts 2:47 KJV
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

Ikalawang tanong: kung hindi nakakapagligtas ang Iglesiya, bakit pa ito itinatag ni Kristo?

Ang sagot sa tanong na ito ay simple lamang, at ito ay upang ang mga naligtas ay mas lumago sa pananampalataya, lumakad ayon sa kalooban ng Diyos, at maiharap sa Panginoong Hesus bilang walang bahid dungis na mga mananampalataya sa pagbabalik Nito (Ephesians 5:25-27). Walang ibang institusyon na itinatag ang Diyos para mapangyari ito kundi ang Iglesiya, kaya't hindi maaari na isawalang-bahala ang pagiging miyembro sa Iglesiyang itinayo mismo ng ating Panginoon at Diyos na si HesuKristo (Ephesians 4:11,12).

Sa Diyos ang Papuri!

© The Defending Of Faith
 
Uu need mo maging member sa isang entity na itinayo na pagmamay ari ng Dios na ang pang ulo sa entity na yan ay ang Panginoong Hesus

1 Corinto 3:15 Nguni't kung ako'y magluwat ng mahabang panahon, ay upang maalaman mo kung paano ang dapat sa mga tao na ugaliin nila sa bahay ng Dios, na siyang iglesia ng Dios na buhay, at haligi at suhay ng katotohanan.

Ang Panginoong Hesus po ang puno sa bahay ng Dios o iglesia ng Dios

Hebreo 3:1 Kaya, mga banal na kapatid, mga may bahagi sa pagtawag ng kalangitan, inyong isipin ang Apostol at Dakilang Saserdote na ating kinikilala, si Jesus; 2 Na siya'y tapat sa naglagay sa kaniya na gaya rin naman ni Moises sa buong sangbahayan niya. 3Sapagka't siya ay inaring may karapatan sa lalong kaluwalhatian kay sa kay Moises, palibhasa'y may lalong karangalan kay sa bahay yaong nagtayo ng bahay. 4 Sapagka't ang bawa't bahay ay may nagtayo; datapuwa't ang nagtayo ng lahat ng mga bagay ay ang Dios. 5 At sa katotohanang si Moises ay tapat sa buong sangbahayan niya gaya ng lingkod, na pinakapatotoo sa mga bagay na sasabihin pagkatapos; 6 Datapuwa't si Cristo, gaya ng anak ay puno sa bahay niya na ang bahay niya ay tayo, kung ating ingatang matibay ang ating pagkakatiwala at pagmamapuri sa pagasa natin hanggang sa katapusan.
 
Sagot:

Oo kailangan mo umanib sa Iglesia ni Cristo para maligtas sapagkat ito ay iniutos mismo ni Cristo. JUAN 10:9: Gawa 20:28LAMSA
 
Natatawa ako kay lamsa na nagsalin ng verse 28 ng gawa 20:28
Pinalitan nya ang original na nakasulat para patunugin lang na Iglesia ni kristo

Grahakhakhak xD

iglesia talaga ng kalokohan yan kulto nayan
 
Act 20:28
Lahat ng translations na iisa lang si lamsa na lumihis

King James Bible
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

International Standard Version
Pay attention to yourselves and to the entire flock over which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers to be shepherds of God's church, which he acquired with his own blood.

NET Bible
Watch out for yourselves and for all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son.

New Heart English Bible
Take heed, therefore, to yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which he purchased with his own blood.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“Pay attention to yourselves therefore, and to the whole flock in which The Spirit of Holiness has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the Church of God which he has purchased with his blood.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Pay attention to yourselves and to the entire flock in which the Holy Spirit has placed you as bishops to be shepherds for God's church which he acquired with his own blood.

New American Standard 1977
“Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

Jubilee Bible 2000
Take heed therefore unto yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has placed you as bishops to feed the congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones} of God, which he has purchased with his own blood.

King James 2000 Bible
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he has purchased with his own blood.

American King James Version
Take heed therefore to yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost has made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he has purchased with his own blood.

American Standard Version
Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit hath made you bishops, to feed the church of the Lord which he purchased with his own blood.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Take heed to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you bishops, to rule the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Darby Bible Translation
Take heed therefore to yourselves, and to all the flock, wherein the Holy Spirit has set you as overseers, to shepherd the assembly of God, which he has purchased with the blood of his own.

English Revised Version
Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in the which the Holy Ghost hath made you bishops, to feed the church of God, which he purchased with his own blood.

Webster's Bible Translation
Take heed therefore to yourselves, and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Weymouth New Testament
"Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock among which the Holy Spirit has placed you to take the oversight for Him and act as shepherds to the Church of God, which He has bought with His own blood.

World English Bible
Take heed, therefore, to yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the assembly of the Lord and God which he purchased with his own blood.

Young's Literal Translation
'Take heed, therefore, to yourselves, and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit made you overseers, to feed the assembly of God that He acquired through His own blood,
Study Bible
Paul's Farewell to the Ephesians
…27For I did not shrink back from declaring to you the whole will of God. 28Keep watch over yourselves and the entire flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He purchased with His own blood. 29I know that after my departure, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.…
Berean Study Bible · Download
Cross References
Jeremiah 3:15
"Then I will give you shepherds a
 
Act 20:28
Lahat ng translations na iisa lang si lamsa na lumihis

King James Bible
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

International Standard Version
Pay attention to yourselves and to the entire flock over which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers to be shepherds of God's church, which he acquired with his own blood.

NET Bible
Watch out for yourselves and for all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son.

New Heart English Bible
Take heed, therefore, to yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which he purchased with his own blood.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“Pay attention to yourselves therefore, and to the whole flock in which The Spirit of Holiness has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the Church of God which he has purchased with his blood.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Pay attention to yourselves and to the entire flock in which the Holy Spirit has placed you as bishops to be shepherds for God's church which he acquired with his own blood.

New American Standard 1977
“Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

Jubilee Bible 2000
Take heed therefore unto yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has placed you as bishops to feed the congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones} of God, which he has purchased with his own blood.

King James 2000 Bible
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he has purchased with his own blood.

American King James Version
Take heed therefore to yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost has made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he has purchased with his own blood.

American Standard Version
Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit hath made you bishops, to feed the church of the Lord which he purchased with his own blood.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Take heed to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you bishops, to rule the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Darby Bible Translation
Take heed therefore to yourselves, and to all the flock, wherein the Holy Spirit has set you as overseers, to shepherd the assembly of God, which he has purchased with the blood of his own.

English Revised Version
Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in the which the Holy Ghost hath made you bishops, to feed the church of God, which he purchased with his own blood.

Webster's Bible Translation
Take heed therefore to yourselves, and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Weymouth New Testament
"Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock among which the Holy Spirit has placed you to take the oversight for Him and act as shepherds to the Church of God, which He has bought with His own blood.

World English Bible
Take heed, therefore, to yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the assembly of the Lord and God which he purchased with his own blood.

Young's Literal Translation
'Take heed, therefore, to yourselves, and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit made you overseers, to feed the assembly of God that He acquired through His own blood,
Study Bible
Paul's Farewell to the Ephesians
…27For I did not shrink back from declaring to you the whole will of God. 28Keep watch over yourselves and the entire flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He purchased with His own blood. 29I know that after my departure, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.…
Berean Study Bible · Download
Cross References
Jeremiah 3:15
"Then I will give you shepherds a
Hindi siya nag iisa utol.. At hindi siya nagkamali ng sabihin niya na ang Iglesia ni Cristo ang dapat andun. Dahil si Cristo naman talaga ang naghandog ng kanyang buhay at namatay at nabuhos ang dugo para sa Iglesia at hindi ang Diyos.
 
Sa lagay mali ang original hebrew bible tama si lamsa?
Huwag kayo maglagay ng turo na wala sa bible brad nagliligaw kayo ng mga tao
Mababasa mo naman sa lahat ng salin at sa original na pinagkunan niyan na yan talaga ang nakasulat ,dagdag lang ni lamsa yan dahil di sya tapat na scribe may pinaboran lang siyang church
Mag research ka brad hanapin mo ang totoo maging mitikoloso ka kasi kaligtasan ng kaluluwa mo ang nakataya dyan

Pinakitaan naman kita ng mga ibat ibang translations ng bible at kung di mo pa alam lamang ang majority tulad ng sa pagboto hehe
 
Ito ang hebrew original na alphabet niyan nasa acts 20:28 at nariyan ang pag pronounce pati ang english translation from the hebrew original Bible

ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ Θεοῦ = ekklēsian tou theou = in english = church of God
 
wag ka mag pa uto.


bago ka maniwala, alamin mo mona kung totoo nga ba,
Iglesia? isa yan sa sekta or denomination ng Christianity diba?
ano ba talaga ang totoo sa Christianity? bat ang daming dispute sa paniniwala nila?
totoo nga ba talaga ang tinuturo nila? bat hindi nagkaka isa?
Diyos ba si Jesus o Tao lang?
or totoo nga ba na may jesus? na may diyos? na may heaven at hell?
or totoo nga ba ang sinasabi ng bibliya? sapat ba ang sabi2 ng pari at ng maraming tao para paniwalaan mo ito? (walang ebidensya sa mga pinaniniwalaan nyo e.g, God, Satan, Jesus, Heaven, Hell etc)
nasa iisang relihiyon na nga lang kayo, may pagtatalo pa. Asan na yung Motto nyo na "Jesus is in my heart or within me"???


hahahahah pa segway lng
#AgnosticAtheistHere
 
andami ng Translation sa Bible on book tpos nag babago pa ang interpretation sa bawat sekta/denom. Hermeneutica? ano basehan para tama ang pag interpret nyo. Wala naman ehh
 
andami ng Translation sa Bible on book tpos nag babago pa ang interpretation sa bawat sekta/denom. Hermeneutica? ano basehan para tama ang pag interpret nyo. Wala naman ehh
Balik ka lang sa original hebrew manuscript para makita mo ang original na nakasulat na mismong sulat kamay ng mga apostol at mga tunay na eskriba o scribes
 
oh balik ako dun, tapos? give me a verifiably true evidence na totoo yung mga sinulat nila?
"wala kasi wala tayo sa time na yun at dipa advance ang tech. noon" oh so walang basehan para sabibing totoo? e bat pinipilit nyo na totoo ito? at sa bata nyo pa talaga sinasabi, kaya lang namam dumadami ang mga kasapi nyo kasi bata palang inu'uto na

and diba Figurative ang mga nka sulat sa bibliya? original man or yung other versions, so e'interpret parin? hmmmm wala parin nagbago.
 
oh balik ako dun, tapos? give me a verifiably true evidence na totoo yung mga sinulat nila?
"wala kasi wala tayo sa time na yun at dipa advance ang tech. noon" oh so walang basehan para sabibing totoo? e bat pinipilit nyo na totoo ito? at sa bata nyo pa talaga sinasabi, kaya lang namam dumadami ang mga kasapi nyo kasi bata palang inu'uto na

and diba Figurative ang mga nka sulat sa bibliya? original man or yung other versions, so e'interpret parin? hmmmm wala parin nagbago.
Scientist ang nakadiskubre ng mga manuscript at sa pagsasaliksik nila nalaman nila ang tunay na edad ng mga manuscript sa pamamaraan na carbon dating
At sa mga artifacts na nahukay na may kaugnay sa mga nakasulat sa bible may mga pisikal na ebidensya tayo ngayon na nagpapatunay na totoo ang Bible ang mga nakadiskubre ay di nawalan ng kredibilidad dahil legit naman
 
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Sa lagay mali ang original hebrew bible tama si lamsa?
Huwag kayo maglagay ng turo na wala sa bible brad nagliligaw kayo ng mga tao
Mababasa mo naman sa lahat ng salin at sa original na pinagkunan niyan na yan talaga ang nakasulat ,dagdag lang ni lamsa yan dahil di sya tapat na scribe may pinaboran lang siyang church
Mag research ka brad hanapin mo ang totoo maging mitikoloso ka kasi kaligtasan ng kaluluwa mo ang nakataya dyan

Pinakitaan naman kita ng mga ibat ibang translations ng bible at kung di mo pa alam lamang ang majority tulad ng sa pagboto hehe
Brad kailan man hindi mali jan si Lamsa.. Ung paliwanag nya kaya hndi Iglesia ng Diyos ang nasa Gawa 20:28 dahil hnd nga naman ang Diyos ang tumubos ng dugo kundi si Cristo.
Tandaan mo utol ang batayan para malaman mo katorohanan sa nakalsulat kung tama ba pagkakasalin eh hindi siya kokontra sa nakasulat. Magkakawangis
 
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