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[MynamesAlvin]

Faith kay Jesus Christ ang requirements para sa kaligtasan,ang Church ay for fellowship lang,hindi totoo na ang Iglesia ang magliligtas sa iyo,kundi si Kristo.

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Brad kailan man hindi mali jan si Lamsa.. Ung paliwanag nya kaya hndi Iglesia ng Diyos ang nasa Gawa 20:28 dahil hnd nga naman ang Diyos ang tumubos ng dugo kundi si Cristo.
Tandaan mo utol ang batayan para malaman mo katorohanan sa nakalsulat kung tama ba pagkakasalin eh hindi siya kokontra sa nakasulat. Magkakawangis

Hindi dapt iniiba ang nakasulat na original greek bible yan ay batas ng Bible na bawal bawasan ,dagdagan ni palitan ang nakasulat at lalagyan mo ng sariling interpretasyon na katulad ng pagkakamaling ginawa ni lamsa

Pinakadahilan nyan brad ay pinapatunog o upang ipatunog lamang ni lamsa ang titulong iglesia ni kristo
Na wala naman talaga sa original manuscript ng Bible

 

[KPI]

Act 20:28
Lahat ng translations na iisa lang si lamsa na lumihis

King James Bible
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

International Standard Version
Pay attention to yourselves and to the entire flock over which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers to be shepherds of God's church, which he acquired with his own blood.

NET Bible
Watch out for yourselves and for all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son.

New Heart English Bible
Take heed, therefore, to yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which he purchased with his own blood.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“Pay attention to yourselves therefore, and to the whole flock in which The Spirit of Holiness has appointed you overseers, to shepherd the Church of God which he has purchased with his blood.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Pay attention to yourselves and to the entire flock in which the Holy Spirit has placed you as bishops to be shepherds for God's church which he acquired with his own blood.

New American Standard 1977
“Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

Jubilee Bible 2000
Take heed therefore unto yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has placed you as bishops to feed the congregation {Gr. ekklesia – called out ones} of God, which he has purchased with his own blood.

King James 2000 Bible
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he has purchased with his own blood.

American King James Version
Take heed therefore to yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost has made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he has purchased with his own blood.

American Standard Version
Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit hath made you bishops, to feed the church of the Lord which he purchased with his own blood.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Take heed to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you bishops, to rule the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Darby Bible Translation
Take heed therefore to yourselves, and to all the flock, wherein the Holy Spirit has set you as overseers, to shepherd the assembly of God, which he has purchased with the blood of his own.

English Revised Version
Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in the which the Holy Ghost hath made you bishops, to feed the church of God, which he purchased with his own blood.

Webster's Bible Translation
Take heed therefore to yourselves, and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Weymouth New Testament
"Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock among which the Holy Spirit has placed you to take the oversight for Him and act as shepherds to the Church of God, which He has bought with His own blood.

World English Bible
Take heed, therefore, to yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the assembly of the Lord and God which he purchased with his own blood.

Young's Literal Translation
'Take heed, therefore, to yourselves, and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit made you overseers, to feed the assembly of God that He acquired through His own blood,
Study Bible
Paul's Farewell to the Ephesians
…27For I did not shrink back from declaring to you the whole will of God. 28Keep watch over yourselves and the entire flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which He purchased with His own blood. 29I know that after my departure, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.…
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Cross References
Jeremiah 3:15
"Then I will give you shepherds a

Mas accurate talaga jan yung sa King James Version, dahil yan ang pinakamalapit na salin sa Hebrew at Greek.

 

[KPI]

Santiago 2:13 (ADB)
Sapagka't ang paghuhukom ay walang awa doon sa hindi nagpakita ng awa: ang awa ay lumuluwalhati laban sa paghuhukom.

Pwede ka ding maligtas kung naawa ka sa kapwa mo tao.


Pero sa mga naka-alam nang katuwiran, Dapat kang pumasok sa bahay ng Dios,
Ano ba yung bahay ng Dios?

1 Timoteo 3:15 (ADB)
Nguni't kung ako'y magluwat ng mahabang panahon, ay upang maalaman mo kung paano ang dapat sa mga tao na ugaliin nila sa bahay ng Dios, na siyang iglesia ng Dios na buhay, at haligi at saligan ng katotohanan.

Lahat bagay ay sa Dios, Kaya lahat ay tatawagin sa pangalan Niya.
Anak ng Dios
Bahay ng Dios
Araw ng Dios

Ganoon lang yung pag-aanalyze dun.

 

[xXxBlockedxXx]

Ohh aftifacts? artifact is a thing made by man thanks for that term, u just helped me give emphasis that the Bible and whatever stories in it, are made by man.

credible and legit evidence? hmmmm I don't agree, I've been an atheist for 6yrs and through searching every now and then, I haven't found any article saying that
LEGIT SCIENTIST discovered a LEGIT EVIDENCE for the "said-to-be-true-without-proof" biblical events/stories.
maybe the "wanna be explorers" religious people said that they discovered something and claimed that it's true, without applying science/logic. (science is our way of knowing if something is true/real or not, btw)

if you're talking about the "said-to-be Noah's Ark" discovery in Mount Ararat and claimed to be 99.9% true , that claim is shallow, Like wth? they discovered an Old boat underneath the ground and because they're a Christian/ a bible believer, they'll just mindlessly claim that its the Noah's Ark? have u or they ever considered that Vikings were already in that Era, Vikings are known as Voyager who builds a boat to sails across the sea; to search for food/shelter; or to seek for war.
('coz they are nasty bitches )

bruh, there's too much hole in that discovery for them to claim it as the Ark of Noah, more or less it's just a discovery of an old boat.

and we're talking about the event here, not the object. The godly event was "God flooded the entire world" not "Noah's boat/ark" 'coz any man can create a boat, "Vikings"

to prove me wrong, support your claim "scientist found/discovered an Credible legit evidence for the event in the Bible"
with credibly legit articles/links.

 

[Frustrated Burger]

King cyrus ng great persian empire na binabanggit sa Old testament naging parte din ng kasaysayan sa Bible

Ezra1:1 Nang unang taon nga ni Ciro na hari sa Persia, upang ang salita ng Panginoon sa pamamagitan ng bibig ni Jeremias ay maganap, kinilos ng Panginoon ang diwa ni Ciro na hari sa Persia, na siya'y nagtanyag sa kaniyang buong kaharian, at isinulat din naman, na sinasabi,

Ito ang discovery ng mga scientist hari sa persia

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Ang romano na mismo ang nagsasabi sa kanilang history

The history of the very empire who put Jesus Christ to death testifies that in the reign of Pontius Pilate, prefect of Judea, under Ceasar Tiberius, Christ was nailed on the cross and died.

Roman History (Annals 15:44)

The Roman historian Tacitus wrote concerning the Great Fire of Rome, in book 15, chapter 44 of his Annals (c. 116):

Sed non ope humana, non largitionibus principis aut deum placamentis decedebat infamia, quin iussum incendium crederetur. Ergo abolendo rumori Nero subdidit reos et quaesitissimis poenis adfecit, quos per flagitia invisos vulgus Christianos appellabat. Auctor nominis eius Christus Tibero imperitante per procuratorem Pontium Pilatum supplicio adfectus erat;

The following is a translation of the above Latin text:

But not all the relief that could come from man, not all the bounties that the prince could bestow, nor all the atonements which could be presented to the gods, availed to relieve Nero from the infamy of being believed to have ordered the conflagration, the fire of Rome. Hence to suppress the rumor, he falsely charged with the guilt, and punished Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius:

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Before his death, Jesus Christ taught the unbelieving Pharisees upon presenting to Him a

Roman coin with the inscription of the picture of Ceasar to “give unto Ceasar the things that are Ceasar’s and unto God the things that are God’s”. (Matthew 22:17-21)

“Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not? But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites? Show me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? They say unto him, Caesar’s. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.”

 

[marcoramiro01]

Faith kay Jesus Christ ang requirements para sa kaligtasan,ang Church ay for fellowship lang,hindi totoo na ang Iglesia ang magliligtas sa iyo,kundi si Kristo.

Agree ako sa'yo.
John 14:6 "Sumagot si Jesus, Ako ang daan, ang katotohanan, at ang buhay. Walang makapupunta sa Ama kundi sa pamamagitan ko."
Malinaw na sinabi ng Panginoong Jesus na Siya mismo ang daan para makamit ang kaligtasan at makapunta sa Ama. Maniniwala lang ako na ang Iglesia ng Diyos na itinatag Niya ang makakapagligtas sa tao kung sinabi Niyang "Ang Iglesiang itinatag ko ang daan" eh hindi naman ganun ang sinabi Niya. Sinabi Niyang Siya lamang ang daan at wala ng iba.