Closed A question About Your God

[uploader74]

thanks for the reply.
Let's wait for Homer_simpson's answer.

 

[ChristianNaitsirhc]

If he's not all-knowing or omniscient then prayer is just useless.

And also here's the verse:

Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength;
His understanding is infinite

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, You know it all.

Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.

Psalm 139:1-3
For the choir director. A Psalm of David.
O Lord, You have searched me and known me. You know when I sit down and when I rise up; You understand my thought from afar. You scrutinize my path and my lying down, And are intimately acquainted with all my ways. Even before there is a word on my tongue, Behold, O Lord, You know it all.

 

[homer_simpson]

edit: wrong post.

 

[homer_simpson]

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Err... haven't heard posts from religious people spouting omniscient, omni-present all that kind of jazz?

 

[uploader74]

homer_simpson

Clarification sa statement mo " A perfect god who is presumed to be capable of creating perfect beings."

Where did you get this idea from?
i'll wait for your reply. Thanks

 

[homer_simpson]

Do I need to repeat myself again??? Thought you read my post before this?

 

[uploader74]

yes please, let's start here.
What's your answer?

Clarification sa statement mo " A perfect god who is presumed to be capable of creating perfect beings."
Where did you get this idea from?

thanks.

 

[homer_simpson]

Ho hum... you are getting tiresome to be honest.

Ok let's make it nice and short. I based or relayed my premises based on what the religious people said about their god about being perfect. Do I need to say it again? Do I have to repeat it again x number of times? I hope not.

Now if you are contesting that premise, I will allow you to ask religious people here urself and ask them if their god is indeed perfect or not. You can ask them now. Go?

 

[uploader74]

homer_simpson,

Thanks for that honest reply. (that you based your premises from religious people here).
It's obvious people who have answered you before are in error of their explanation of "God" as
OMNIscient / OMNIpresent or OMNIpotent without limits.

I'm on your side contesting that idea by your logical questions.
Hopefully I would create a different thread so (religious people here would answer my questions.)

So do u have a question for me regarding "God"?
and also, are you Atheist or Agnostic?

Let's move forward as we reply (hope others won't ask me or you for the moment.)
Thanks

 

[uploader74]

ChristianNaitsirhc,

thanks for those verses.
but wala nakalagay doon na - "OMNISCIENT" or God is OMNISCIENT?
Tama ba?

let me clarify... how did God KNOW?
Alam na ba nya agad INSTANTLY or INAALAM pa Niya?

Waiting for your reply.

 

[ChristianNaitsirhc]

//Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength;
His understanding is infinite.//

Ibig sabihin ang kaalaman nya ay infinite, means alam nya lahat.

//Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight//

Walang makakatakas or makakatago sa mata ng diyos, means nakikita nya lahat ng ginagawa ng nilikha nya, mga nasa isip nila.

//Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, You know it all.//

Alam nya na agad nasa isip mo bago mo paman ito sabihin gamit ang dasal

 

[ChristianNaitsirhc]

//let me clarify... how did God KNOW?//

-kung hindi nya alam ibig sabihin hindi sya God, kung magdadasal ka halos walang saysay din dahil hindi nya maririnig dahil base sayo hindi sya omniscient

//Alam na ba nya agad INSTANTLY or INAALAM pa Niya?//

Based on this bible verse-- yes.

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, You know it all.

 

[ChristianNaitsirhc]

but wala nakalagay doon na - "OMNISCIENT" or God is OMNISCIENT?

Basahin mo nalang po ulit yung verse. Hindi literal na binanggit ang salitang omniscient ngunit base sa bible verse isa syang omniscient.

 

[uploader74]

ChristianNaitsirhc,
thanks for admitting that - " HINDI literal na BINAGGIT ang salitang OMNISCIENT".
Jesus and the Apostles did not use this word at all, it's a foreign word from the Bible.
So where did you learn this word from, if Scriptures did not use it to pertain God?

If INSTANTLY ALAM na Niya,
pointless or non-sense if God will "search" right?

Thanks

 

[ChristianNaitsirhc]

Bruhh. Binasa moba yung bible verse? Sa tingin ko malinaw kong pinaliwanag yan

 

[ChristianNaitsirhc]

Quote ko ulit ah

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, You know it all.

 

[ChristianNaitsirhc]

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, YOU KNOW IT ALL.

You know it all = all-knowing
All knowing means omniscient.

Nagets mo naba lods?

 

[homer_simpson]

Hey uploader74 is your god benevolent or malevolent?

 

[ChristianNaitsirhc]

Yan naka all capital na sinabi.

Sinabi ko na di literal na sinabi na omniscient sya NGUNIT dinescribe sa bible sa Omniscient sya, example yung psalm 139:4

 

[ChristianNaitsirhc]

At kahit umagree ako sa sinabi mong hindi sya omnscient binigyan molang ng maraming problema ang concept of God.

Example yung praying. Mawawalan ng silbi ang pagdadasal dahil hindi rin naman naririnig ng diyos-- dahil sabi mo hindi sya omniscient. Hindi nya alam nangyayare sa mundong ito. So basically hindi nasya God