Who is persecuting who? Sino ang nag-uusig kanino?

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Isa sa narrative ng mga kristiyano ay ang paniniwalang sila ay biktima ng pag-uusig ng mga hindi kristiyano.. gaano ito katotoo?

In reality, as to what we can observe, it is christians who persecute christians of a different denominations. If something.. yung mga atheist pa nga ang inuusig ng mga kristyano dahil sa inherent na turo ng kanilang paniniwala na pakialaman ang buhay ng may buhay. Inherent sa turo nila ijustify na tama ang paniniwala nila, na wala nman sanang problema, ang kaso lang ay mahilig sila isingit ang paniniwala nila sa ordinaryong conversation na wala nmn kinalaman sa relihiyon.

Halimbawa, isang kaibigan ang dmaing tungkol sa sakit ng paghihiwalay nila ng asawa niya, normal na maririnig na payo ng isang kristyano ang, "magdasal at magkaroon ng relasyon sa Diyos" or something similar. It is insensitive dahil kung atheist ang naturang kaibigan, pinipilit siya ng kristiyanong kaibigan maniwala o tinutukoy ng kristyano na dahilan ang hindi paniniwala bilang dahilan kung bakit siya nasasaktan. It implies na kasalanan niya indirekta man itong sinasabi.

Wala lng naisip ko lang...

 

[Cerebellum]

isang kaibigan ang dmaing tungkol sa sakit ng paghihiwalay nila ng asawa niya, normal na maririnig na payo ng isang kristyano ang, "magdasal at magkaroon ng relasyon sa Diyos" or something similar

What kind of pag-uusig naman ito kung sakali?

 

[jayendecastro]

Ung pag-uusig kasi usually part ng narrative talaga…

Pag angat ang isang denomination…sabihin nila na dahil sila ang blessed and guided ni god nila…

Pag mejo nasa alanganin sila… kasi inuusig sila at part un ng kanilang faith at plan ni god..

Depends on what the situation require really..

Pero yang sample mo TS happend samin mag asawa years ago..di pa ako “total atheist” i guess and a christian friend of ours invited us sa church nila..ung nasa mall na church .. yah pretty much ganan sinabi at meron pa about our children being not important.. we attended twice (i was just there for the free food at coffee) …pero yah nothing happened.. we resolved our issue as a couple nang walang prayer, singing or bible study… in fact we are both in agreement na we didnt like ung sinabi ng mga “christians” na un about us as individuals and as couple. My wife is still a believer in that stuff for the most part

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Ung pag-uusig kasi usually part ng narrative talaga…

Pag angat ang isang denomination…sabihin nila na dahil sila ang blessed and guided ni god nila…

Pag mejo nasa alanganin sila… kasi inuusig sila at part un ng kanilang faith at plan ni god..

Depends on what the situation require really..

Pero yang sample mo TS happend samin mag asawa years ago..di pa ako “total atheist” i guess and a christian friend of ours invited us sa church nila..ung nasa mall na church .. yah pretty much ganan sinabi at meron pa about our children being not important.. we attended twice (i was just there for the free food at coffee) …pero yah nothing happened.. we resolved our issue as a couple nang walang prayer, singing or bible study… in fact we are both in agreement na we didnt like ung sinabi ng mga “christians” na un about us as individuals and as couple. My wife is still a believer in that stuff for the most part

Hindi kailangan totally atheist ka pata makita mo. Punta ka sa isang christian, kwento mo yan karanasan mo kung saan wala nmn nangyari... then watch it unfold.
Either hindi ka sincere or you dont have enough faith yan ang akusasyon na maririnig mo. Yet sa pagsasabi mo ng totoo, sila pa ang inuusig.

 

[adcaurienll]

yung sa bible na kristyano yun yung inuusig, pinag uusig. yung mga iba nag papakilala kristyano kuno sila di naman sumusunod kay Kristo, wala namang tunay na kristyano na nang uusig e. pag nakakita ka ng nanguusig tpos kristiyano daw sya, peke yun. yung tunay nasa bible naman e naka sulat kun ano klase ugali, makikita sa pamumuhay, sumusunod kay Kristo, yun tunay na kristiyano

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

yung sa bible na kristyano yun yung inuusig, pinag uusig. yung mga iba nag papakilala kristyano kuno sila di naman sumusunod kay Kristo, wala namang tunay na kristyano na nang uusig e. pag nakakita ka ng nanguusig tpos kristiyano daw sya, peke yun. yung tunay nasa bible naman e naka sulat kun ano klase ugali, makikita sa pamumuhay, sumusunod kay Kristo, yun tunay na kristiyano

Sa bible na kristyano? Ibig mo sabihin ing mga kristyano bago pa isulat ang bibliya?

 

[adcaurienll]

Sa bible na kristyano? Ibig mo sabihin ing mga kristyano bago pa isulat ang bibliya?

yung mga kristiyano na tinutukoy ng bible. meron naman mga kristiyano ngayon e na tunay, makikita mo naman yun kasi sa pamumuhay ng tao kung kristiyano ba talaga, kasi yung tunay na kristiyano, yun yung sumusunod kay Kristo

 

[plhbg1]

ahaha eto din turo ng simbahan namin when i was christian, inu-usig daw kami haha

 

[Arlertz]

Mali kasi ang intindi ng ibang nagsasabing "christian" sila tungkol sa salitang "pag-uusig".

Kapag yung isang religion na kakulay ng italy yung logo, kapag basta sinagot lang yung paniniwala nila at kontra ito sa kanila, yung iba sasabihing "pag-uusig" na daw sa kanila yon, or ni kwestiyon yung paniniwala nila, "pag-uusig" na daw iyon. Ganon din ang sinasabi ng ibang religion at mga tao. Kaya tuloy yung bigat ng salitang "pag-uusig" ay talagang nagiging mababaw tuloy gaya ng sinabi mo.

Tungkol naman sa example mo, mali rin nga kasi yung paniniwala ng karamihang mga taong nagke-claim na "Christian" sa bagay na iyan kaya ganyan talaga ang sasabihin nila. Parang kala nila nakaka comfort yung salita nila pero ang totoo sinisisi pa nila yung tinutukoy nila. Walang pinagkaiba yan kapag tinanong mo kung bakit may problema, ang isasagot ng karamihan sa mga tao ay "sinusubok ka kasi ng Diyos para malaman kung gano katibay ang pananampalataya mo sa kaniya", when in reality hindi naman ganyan ang turo ng bible.

Bakit ko nabanggit yan? Dahil gaya sa salitang "pag-uusig", hindi naman ganyan kasi ang "pag-uusig" na example sa mga totoong "Christian" sa bible, lalo, hindi ganyang klaseng kababaw na "pag-uusig" yung sinabi ni Jesus na pag-uusigin ang mga tunay na tagasunod niya. hindi lang talaga nila alam yung bigat ng salita na yan dahil yun ang turo sa kanila ng mga pastor, pari, ministro nila.

Totoong may pag-uusig, at nararanasan yan ng maraming tao ngayon.

 

[GildartsTale]

Christians are the most persecuted group in all of society. Even until now.

 

[plhbg1]

Christians are the most persecuted group in all of society. Even until now.

how are you so sure that other groups are not the most persecuted?

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Christians are the most persecuted group in all of society. Even until now.

Kung bubuksan mo mata mo, pwede ding sabihing christians are the most persecuting group sa society..

 

[adcaurienll]

Kung bubuksan mo mata mo, pwede ding sabihing christians are the most persecuting group sa society..

nope. yung christian kuno baka sila yun tinutukoy mo, pero biblical christians would never persecute

 

[plhbg1]

nope. yung christian kuno baka sila yun tinutukoy mo, pero biblical christians would never persecute

labelling other people as non-biblical christians is already persecution/harassment especially that they claim to be biblical like you do, so saan banda yung sinasabi mong biblical christians never harass anyone

 

[jayendecastro]

Christians are the most persecuted group in all of society. Even until now.

How are christians persecuted now.. pasample…

Kung bubuksan mo mata mo, pwede ding sabihing christians are the most persecuting group sa society..

Yep.. christians persecute “other” christians.. non-christians…

 

[GildartsTale]

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1. Christians are targeted and murdered for their belief. Mostly in the middle east and in communist countries.

2. Christians always get censored in any form of media. I even experience it firsthand. I post something about what I believe about Christianity and its values. For some reason, Facebook took it down without explanation. Not just me but some friends or someone I know. But when some Atheist or some Marxist Woke posts something against Christianity (and clearly misrepresenting Christianity) never gets banned. The list can go on.

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labelling other people as non-biblical christians is already persecution/harassment especially that they claim to be biblical like you do, so saan banda yung sinasabi mong biblical christians never harass anyone

Labelling other poeple as non-biblical christians is not persecution/harassment. It is exposing their lies and misrepresentation of what the Bible actually said. There is only ONE version of Christianity though it has diverse churches throughout the world.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

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Are you living in this article? Obvious na propaganda yan article na yan kung titingin tayo sa tunay na mundo.

Himayin natin yan isa-isa

1. Christians are targeted and murdered for their belief. Mostly in the middle east and in communist countries.

Maliit na portion ng mundo ang middle east at communist countries. In fact, sa majority ng mundo, muslims and communists are also persecuted by Christians. Not that I agree with these ideologies.. it is just a groupism tendency of people. Mejo kakapalan ng mukha para sa mga christian mag claim ng victim sa narrative na ito.

2. Christians always get censored in any form of media. I even experience it firsthand. I post something about what I believe about Christianity and its values. For some reason, Facebook took it down without explanation. Not just me but some friends or someone I know. But when some Atheist or some Marxist Woke posts something against Christianity (and clearly misrepresenting Christianity) never gets banned. The list can go on.

Again, this is another case of groupism thought. It is the greatest christian lie to claim that they are innocently "just saying the truth", but in reality, they are intentionally harassing people of different beliefs. Kasinungalingan din kung sasabihin mong hindi gawain ng christians ang ganyan. Tignan nlng natin ang case ni Gold Dagal. I am sure ang paliwanag mo nlng sa sarili mo hindi tunay na kristiyano ang umaatake sakanya.

Labelling other poeple as non-biblical christians is not persecution/harassment. It is exposing their lies and misrepresentation of what the Bible actually said. There is only ONE version of Christianity though it has diverse churches throughout the world.

Yan nmn ang dahilan kung bakit inherent sa christianity ang persecution at judgement ng kapwa. Ang paniniwala nila na sila lang ang tama. Of course sasabihin mo hindi ito persecution... kasi sa wordlview mo justified ka.. pero sa isip din ng lahat ng nagpersecute ng christian sa history ay justified din sila due to varying belief and justification.

Kaya habang meron mga religion na nagtuturo ng tama at mali, never magkakaroon ng objective right and wrong sa mundo. Lalo kung ang basis ng karamihan ng tama at mali ay isang entity na hindi nakikita, nakakausap, naiintindihan at lahat naman din ng tao ay interpretation based on emotion and feelings lang ang pinanghahawakan. Wala kayong kaibahan sa mga woke at marxists sa aspeto hindi kayo marunong tumingin sa salamin at magsabing "teka baka mali pala ako"

 

[plhbg1]

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1. Christians are targeted and murdered for their belief. Mostly in the middle east and in communist countries.

2. Christians always get censored in any form of media. I even experience it firsthand. I post something about what I believe about Christianity and its values. For some reason, Facebook took it down without explanation. Not just me but some friends or someone I know. But when some Atheist or some Marxist Woke posts something against Christianity (and clearly misrepresenting Christianity) never gets banned. The list can go on.

so how is this result into christians being the most persecuted pipz?

Labelling other poeple as non-biblical christians is not persecution/harassment. It is exposing their lies and misrepresentation of what the Bible actually said. There is only ONE version of Christianity though it has diverse churches throughout the world.

wow you are saying that imposing your opinion to people other than yourself is still not a harassment?

 

[jayendecastro]

Are you living in this article? Obvious na propaganda yan article na yan kung titingin tayo sa tunay na mundo.

Himayin natin yan isa-isa


Maliit na portion ng mundo ang middle east at communist countries. In fact, sa majority ng mundo, muslims and communists are also persecuted by Christians. Not that I agree with these ideologies.. it is just a groupism tendency of people. Mejo kakapalan ng mukha para sa mga christian mag claim ng victim sa narrative na ito.

Again, this is another case of groupism thought. It is the greatest christian lie to claim that they are innocently "just saying the truth", but in reality, they are intentionally harassing people of different beliefs. Kasinungalingan din kung sasabihin mong hindi gawain ng christians ang ganyan. Tignan nlng natin ang case ni Gold Dagal. I am sure ang paliwanag mo nlng sa sarili mo hindi tunay na kristiyano ang umaatake sakanya.


Yan nmn ang dahilan kung bakit inherent sa christianity ang persecution at judgement ng kapwa. Ang paniniwala nila na sila lang ang tama. Of course sasabihin mo hindi ito persecution... kasi sa wordlview mo justified ka.. pero sa isip din ng lahat ng nagpersecute ng christian sa history ay justified din sila due to varying belief and justification.

Kaya habang meron mga religion na nagtuturo ng tama at mali, never magkakaroon ng objective right and wrong sa mundo. Lalo kung ang basis ng karamihan ng tama at mali ay isang entity na hindi nakikita, nakakausap, naiintindihan at lahat naman din ng tao ay interpretation based on emotion and feelings lang ang pinanghahawakan. Wala kayong kaibahan sa mga woke at marxists sa aspeto hindi kayo marunong tumingin sa salamin at magsabing "teka baka mali pala ako"

Eto un eh

 

[GildartsTale]

Are you living in this article? Obvious na propaganda yan article na yan kung titingin tayo sa tunay na mundo.

Himayin natin yan isa-isa

Ganyan mag isip kasi nga you are fortunate to live a democratic country. Totoo nga yung mga sinabi ko that you guys living your own bubble.

Maliit na portion ng mundo ang middle east at communist countries. In fact, sa majority ng mundo, muslims and communists are also persecuted by Christians. Not that I agree with these ideologies.. it is just a groupism tendency of people. Mejo kakapalan ng mukha para sa mga christian mag claim ng victim sa narrative na ito.

Panong maliit ang mundo ng communist and middle east? Hello, China?

Give an example na kuno, muslims and communist are persecuted by Christians.

Again, this is another case of groupism thought. It is the greatest christian lie to claim that they are innocently "just saying the truth", but in reality, they are intentionally harassing people of different beliefs. Kasinungalingan din kung sasabihin mong hindi gawain ng christians ang ganyan. Tignan nlng natin ang case ni Gold Dagal. I am sure ang paliwanag mo nlng sa sarili mo hindi tunay na kristiyano ang umaatake sakanya.

Pano naging groupism? Actual experience nga eh. Ano ba yan. Living pa kasi kayo sa bubble, kala kasi conspiracy at propaganda lang lahat. tsk2.

Sa amerika lang na example, marami akong kakilala dun, cancelled and censored for what they believe, but when some Woke Idiology is presented, not cancelled.

Yung kay Gold Dagal, eh counterfeit Christianity naman yang INC.

Ito pa, let me give this to you. Why though Christ & Christianity easily get mocked and ridiculed but kunti lang sa muslim?

Yan nmn ang dahilan kung bakit inherent sa christianity ang persecution at judgement ng kapwa. Ang paniniwala nila na sila lang ang tama. Of course sasabihin mo hindi ito persecution... kasi sa wordlview mo justified ka.. pero sa isip din ng lahat ng nagpersecute ng christian sa history ay justified din sila due to varying belief and justification.

Kaya habang meron mga religion na nagtuturo ng tama at mali, never magkakaroon ng objective right and wrong sa mundo. Lalo kung ang basis ng karamihan ng tama at mali ay isang entity na hindi nakikita, nakakausap, naiintindihan at lahat naman din ng tao ay interpretation based on emotion and feelings lang ang pinanghahawakan. Wala kayong kaibahan sa mga woke at marxists sa aspeto hindi kayo marunong tumingin sa salamin at magsabing "teka baka mali pala ako"

I can flip those words to you. Hindi nyo rin matanggap na mayruong objective truth that came from an intelligent designer. Wag mong ekompara ang Marxist Woke sa Christianity. Woke bastards force their beliefs and use all means including political power and authoritarian regime to abuse power to others. Christianity never forces their beliefs.