Ang isang Atheist ay magiging theist kapag ini-apply ang science at common sense

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...yun po ay kapag honest na naghahanap ng katotohanan ang isang tunay na atheist.

Ang pangunahing dapat paniwalaan ng isang atheist para makumbinsi niya ang kaniyang sarili na walang Dios, ay ang pinagmulan ng buhay. Kailangan nyang paniwalaan na lahat nang living organisms ay produkto ng mga masalimuot na aksidente. Okey na po sana sa pamamagitan ng teyorya ni Darwin, kaso natuklasan ng mga syentista ang existence ng DNA.

Para po sa mga estudyanteng hindi pa nagti-take ng biology, ang DNA po ang tumatayong plano or code sa disenyo ng bawat living organism.

Ang DNA po ang nagtatakda kung anong magiging hugis ng hayop, anu-anong chemical komposisyon ng tissues, bilang ng cells sa bawat tissues, saang parte ng katawan nakalagay ang mga specific tissues, anong structure (soft, solid, liquid), anong function, papano kakain, papano mag-extract ng chemical sa kinain, anong method of mobility, mga kelangan na interface kung meron bang sense of feeling, interface kapag may sense of smell, sense of hearing, sense of seeing, body maintenance, memory storage, ability to make decisions, ability to withstand environmental conditions. Sorry, hindi ko pa madi-describe lahat.

Nakapaloob din po sa DNA ang design stages (from infancy to adulthood), the timing of changes in form, duration of each form.

Ang kakayahang mag-reproduce ay isa sa mga pinaka complex na proseso na nangangailangan ng complex and precise DNA coding. Lalo na kung involve ay produksiyon ng magkaibang gender at ang necessity ng interaksyon ng mga genders.

Any slightest accidental error or hindi eksakto sa DNA coding would be catastrophic for the living organism.

Dito po may problemang hindi maso-solve ang "accident" theory...Ang kaunaunahang living organism would have needed at least these (or else evolution theory would have been dead on arrival).....

• ability to reproduce
• ability to survive while waiting to reproduce

Hindi pa po kasama dyan yung magical "spark of life". Anything less would mean dead on arrival para sa evolution theory.

Ang isa pong pinaka simpleng form of living organism like amoeba ay nagtataglay ng DNA code sequence na kapag i-transcribe nyo ay mangangailangan ng isang library to contain the books of its DNA sequence.

 

[jayendecastro]

How will all of that will lead to theism? And which specific god?

 

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How will all of that will lead to theism? And which specific god?

Simple lang po...it's obviously produkto po ng intelligent design.

Now, believing and knowing there is God doesn't necessarily put you in a good position (even though marami pong former atheists na naging Christians). Ika nga po ng Kasulatan, maging mga demonyo man ay naniniwala na may Dios, at nanginginig pa. Kaya hindi po karapat-dapat maliitin ng mga nakakaalam ang mga hindi nakakaalam.

 

[jayendecastro]

Simple lang po...it's obviously produkto po ng intelligent design.

Now, believing and knowing there is God doesn't necessarily put you in a good position (even though marami pong former atheists na naging Christians). Ika nga po ng Kasulatan, maging mga demonyo man ay naniniwala na may Dios, at nanginginig pa. Kaya hindi po karapat-dapat maliitin ng mga nakakaalam ang mga hindi nakakaalam.

Nope.. even if u can disprove evolution or any other scientific theories eh matic na tama na ung sayo…

Ur just offering another proposal na kailangan mo pa ding patunayan…

So anong patunay ng intelligent design?? Whats ur basis for comparison sa isang bagay na intelligently designed?

 

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Nope.. even if u can disprove evolution or any other scientific theories eh matic na tama na ung sayo…

Agree po ako dyan.

 

[plhbg1]

biology ka pala eh dapat alam mo papa-ano magbuo ng isang DNA molecule, you just attacked 1 theory but missed another which is di mo alam as a biology expert, ako naman chemistry yung field ko kaya alam ko papaano ma-synthesize yang DNA na sinasabi mo, yang "God" molecule mo i'll just create it in the laboratory, in fact the theory of creation of life which you missed is popular in the chemistry field

 

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Para po sa mga hindi ma-gets yung point ng original post....
DNA proves life could have not started as a result of accident or series of accidents, because the first accidental life form that would have started the evolution needed very complex DNA sequence at the onset. Kelangan nya kaagad ng kakayahang mag reproduce...isang abilidad na hindi pwedeng ma-attain kapag hindi encoded sa DNA.

It's like believing that random accidents can create a sophisticated computer system, complete with a running OS, apps, device drivers, accessories (motherboard, memory, precision hard drive, keyboard, mouse, monitor, webcam, etc), aircon room, power source, etc.). And this computer is capable of creating an exact reproduction of itself.

You have better chance of winning the lottery every week for the rest of your life than these random multiple complex accidents creating something of great design.

 

[plhbg1]

Para po sa mga hindi ma-gets yung point ng original post....
DNA proves life could have not started as a result of accident or series of accidents, because the first accidental life form that would have started the evolution needed very complex DNA sequence at the onset. Kelangan nya kaagad ng kakayahang mag reproduce...isang abilidad na hindi pwedeng ma-attain kapag hindi encoded sa DNA.

at ngayun pinalabas pa that life started as DNA, nako biology kapa naman

 

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biology ka pala eh dapat alam mo papa-ano magbuo ng isang DNA molecule, you just attacked 1 theory but missed another which is di mo alam as a biology expert, ako naman chemistry yung field ko kaya alam ko papaano ma-synthesize yang DNA na sinasabi mo, yang "God" molecule mo i'll just create it in the laboratory, in fact the theory of creation of life which you missed is popular in the chemistry field

Hindi po ako biologist. Pero you help make my point. Na very complex ang DNA and can't be a result of accidents.

at ngayun pinalabas pa that life started as DNA, nako biology kapa naman

Wala po akong sinabing ganyan. But you won't find any life form that doesn't have a DNA.

 

[plhbg1]

Wala po akong sinabing ganyan. But you won't find any life form that doesn't have a DNA.

ayon so pinapahiya mo yung biology kasi study of life iyan eh, na-amazed ka lang pala sa DNA molecule but you never cared to investigate how it started, instead you just attributed it to some powerful entity kasi you were so amazed kaya tinapon mo lang sa "god did it" basket instead na mag investigate

 

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DNA works exactly like computer code. You can't produce a complete working operating system by relying on accidental bits of 1's and 0's.

 

[plhbg1]

DNA works exactly like computer code. You can't produce a complete working operating system by relying on accidental bits of 1's and 0's.

at papaano mo i-explain yung cancer boss, di rin ba ito nangyayari by chance? kasi yang cancer cells may DNA din hehe

 

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ayon so pinapahiya mo yung biology kasi study of life iyan eh, na-amazed ka lang pala sa DNA molecule but you never cared to investigate how it started, instead you just attributed it to some powerful entity kasi you were so amazed kaya tinapon mo lang sa "god did it" basket instead na mag investigate

You are still missing the very point. It's not how it started that is important. It's the necessity for it to start at a very complex form before you can have a living organism that is able to reproduce.

If the very first life which evolution should have started from was incapable of reproduction, evolution would have been dead on arrival.

This is the very important issue if you firmly believe random accidents caused life to start.

at papaano mo i-explain yung cancer boss, di rin ba ito nangyayari by chance? kasi yang cancer cells may DNA din hehe

Cancer resulting from random DNA mutations only proves that random accidents can only cause destructive results, nothing constructive...like evolving from a single-cell organism to a more complex animal.

 

[plhbg1]

If the very first life which evolution should have started from was incapable of reproduction, evolution would have been dead on arrival.

ahaha yan talaga problema kasi di mo inalam yung how life started kaya na-amazed kana naman sa reproduction hay naku god did it again hehe

 

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ahaha yan talaga problema kasi di mo inalam yung how life started kaya na-amazed kana naman sa reproduction hay naku god did it again hehe

You still have not addressed the point that the first simple living organism would have needed a complex DNA at the onset.

 

[plhbg1]

You still have not addressed the point that the first simple living organism would have needed a complex DNA at the onset.

have you heard about viruses boss? do you agree that some of them are with no DNA?

 

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have you heard about viruses boss? do you agree that some of them are with no DNA?

Opo. Alam nyo po ba na hindi living organisms ang mga virus?

 

[plhbg1]

Opo. Alam nyo po ba na hindi living organisms ang mga virus?

ahaha and how about those have DNA boss? not living na din sila?

 

[Supalpal]

ahaha and how about those have DNA boss? not living na din sila?

Andito ka pala boss hahaha.. tama ka dapat yung pinagmulan

 

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ahaha and how about those have DNA boss? not living na din sila?

Are you asking about viruses that happen to have DNA?