I get the dilemma kung we will just be in the topic of sports.More than sa testerone levels eh dapat ang transition eh ginawa before puberty…most trans athlete na active ngayon eh di na pasok jan as far as i know
do u think that a boy in puberty have already decided sa age nea na un na he wanna be competing in women’s sports??
Too late lang nmn yan sa case ng athletes na magidentify sa ibang gender at wanna compete sa gender na un..
I know a lot of children na bata pa lang alam na nila na gusto nila maging athletes and stuff.. pero i have not met someone na gusto maging athlete sa gender na opposite sa biology nea
YES!!! totoo to, biologically men pa rin ang yan kahit nagpi***** pa yan sila.true. kahit bakla yan or transgender lalaki parin yan. mas advantage sila kong maglalaro sa womens sport association.
Just like you, I really think na letting them decide this early may make them regret it pagtanda. But this ideas come from culture already discriminating or have negative view of not conforming to the heterosexual norm. We are yet to find out how a truly inclusive world is like, but we will unable to assess it properly the way we are now. The only thing we are sure as of now is there are people who were limited to living a life in conformity and have to give up their happiness early on in life.Seryoso ka?? U think ung “education” na yan sa age nila would answer kung ano magiging buhay nila in the future?? Imagin urself as a teenager tapos naisipan mo na gusto mo maging isang swimmer sa women’s team… so pahormone therapy ka na by then kasi sure na sure ka na un ang gusto mo?? Or would u rather experience ur life more..learn about urself more para mas sgurado ka??
Hindi naman basta ganyan lang ang hormone therapy. Kung ***** lang transition, malamang may advantage na sila dahil after puberty na ginawa yan.YES!!! totoo to, biologically men pa rin ang yan kahit nagpi***** pa yan sila.
Someday, sports will be gender-less or gender-neutral.
Yes thank you for correcting, ang point ko lang sir dapat di talaga iallow yang transgeder sa pambabaeng sports. (Transman madalang lang naman, sa pageant pa siguro). Unfair talaga, di yan homophobic realistic lang talaga yan. Daming nabubutthurt eh di matanggap. Bago sila matanggap ng karamihan sana matanggap nila na kung saan lang ang limitasyon nila.Just like you, I really think na letting them decide this early may make them regret it pagtanda. But this ideas come from culture already discriminating or have negative view of not conforming to the heterosexual norm. We are yet to find out how a truly inclusive world is like, but we will unable to assess it properly the way we are now. The only thing we are sure as of now is there are people who were limited to living a life in conformity and have to give up their happiness early on in life.
Hindi naman basta ganyan lang ang hormone therapy. Kung ***** lang transition, malamang may advantage na sila dahil after puberty na ginawa yan.
ahaha the fact that transgenders are still able to join games in the real world makes you the one who is butthurt and who cannot accept realityDaming nabubutthurt eh di matanggap. Bago sila matanggap ng karamihan sana matanggap nila na kung saan lang ang limitasyon nila.
Having two teenagers of my own, they and their peers are fully aware ng ibat ibang gender identities na yan.. pabago bago pa nga ung mga nabababasa ko sa usapan nila sa friends nila..actually yung identity crisis boss occurs during adolescence in which puberty occurs as well and we are already integrating values education in the curriculum to help students tackle the crisis, all we have to do boss is just move the integration a little bit earlier, instead of during adolescent stage boss we move it to just before that adolescence
secondly, we are not making all our students transgenders but making them aware of the different identities they can pursue has been the usual integration that we have, all we have to do is to add transgender identity as one of those identities they can pursue, the keyword is "making them aware" and not "make them transgenders"
Syempre para sayo, "butthurt" lang sila at hindi lng matanggap, which is a simple way to impose your flawed understanding as "truth".Yes thank you for correcting, ang point ko lang sir dapat di talaga iallow yang transgeder sa pambabaeng sports. (Transman madalang lang naman, sa pageant pa siguro). Unfair talaga, di yan homophobic realistic lang talaga yan. Daming nabubutthurt eh di matanggap.
This is a clear indication of discrimination. In modern society, the default is to accept people, then setting limitation comes after. Pag nauna ang setting limitiation, clearly you consider people to be below you.Bago sila matanggap ng karamihan sana matanggap nila na kung saan lang ang limitasyon nila.
And how many bata ang sure about themselves sa age nila na yon?? Even adults nagkakacrisis about their identity eh..I get the dilemma kung we will just be in the topic of sports.
Pero, if it is about isang bata who was gender-non-conforming from the start, jan magkakaroon ng punto ung ideya na hindi na dapat kontrahin ng magulang ang bata. Kasi kahit ano p man ang pangarap ng bata paglaki nya, the later they transition, the more they will be prone to being discriminated.
Is it discrimation or is it just stating facts?? Limitations exists..differences as well…Syempre para sayo, "butthurt" lang sila at hindi lng matanggap, which is a simple way to impose your flawed understanding as "truth".
This is a clear indication of discrimination. In modern society, the default is to accept people, then setting limitation comes after. Pag nauna ang setting limitiation, clearly you consider people to be below you.
kung ano yung existing na itinuturo boss yun pa din ang approach, idinagdag lang talaga natin yung transgender as one of the identities, the objective is for them to be able to carry out the roles of each identity they choose, the rules of sports has now become one of the transgender roles and we just make them aware of those roles, yun lang boss, it's still making them awareHaving two teenagers of my own, they and their peers are fully aware ng ibat ibang gender identities na yan.. pabago bago pa nga ung mga nabababasa ko sa usapan nila sa friends nila..
So ung question jan if ano ang ieducate mo sa kanila about jan??
So what will u say nga sa isang teenage boy na feel nea babae sya at feel nea gusto nea magcompete sa girl’s sport?
HAHAHA okay opinion mo yan eh. Feeling entitled talaga mga ibang members ng lgbt. Kaya no to sogie bill maghari harian lang talaga ang mga yan gaya sa Europe. Kulto ka bang pura luka vega?Syempre para sayo, "butthurt" lang sila at hindi lng matanggap, which is a simple way to impose your flawed understanding as "truth".
This is a clear indication of discrimination. In modern society, the default is to accept people, then setting limitation comes after. Pag nauna ang setting limitiation, clearly you consider people to be below you.
Ano ba kasi ang mahirap intindihin sa "fairness"? Patas dapat. Oh ayan tinagalog ko na. MGA LALAKI PA RIN ANG MGA YAN. ANg tatanga lang talaga ng pinoy na maniniwala na ang transgender ay babae. Napaka talaga.ahaha the fact that transgenders are still able to join games in the real world makes you the one who is butthurt and who cannot accept reality
hindi naman yung gender ang un-fair boss, yung strength ang un-fair boss hindi yung gender, we already have God hormone determined boss and we just have to work on this God hormone to balance the game, outdated ka na ata masyado sa updatesAno ba kasi ang mahirap intindihin sa "fairness"? Patas dapat. Oh ayan tinagalog ko na. MGA LALAKI PA RIN ANG MGA YAN. ANg tatanga lang talaga ng pinoy na maniniwala na ang transgender ay babae. Napaka talaga.
It is sad na puro assertion at ad hominem lng ang content ng sinabi mo, at hindi mo maprove ung arguments mo.HAHAHA okay opinion mo yan eh. Feeling entitled talaga mga ibang members ng lgbt. Kaya no to sogie bill maghari harian lang talaga ang mga yan gaya sa Europe. Kulto ka bang pura luka vega?
A way na matanggap ka ng nasa paligid ko tanggapin mo muna ang sarili mo. Kahit anong opera o ***** pa yang gagawin mo lalaki/babae ka pa rin. Ano kakasuhan ako pag tinawag kong sir yung transgender?
Ano ba kasi ang mahirap intindihin sa "fairness"? Patas dapat. Oh ayan tinagalog ko na. MGA LALAKI PA RIN ANG MGA YAN. ANg tatanga lang talaga ng pinoy na maniniwala na ang transgender ay babae. Napaka talaga.
May awareness na nga….kung ano yung existing na itinuturo boss yun pa din ang approach, idinagdag lang talaga natin yung transgender as one of the identities, the objective is for them to be able to carry out the roles of each identity they choose, the rules of sports has now become one of the transgender roles and we just make them aware of those roles, yun lang boss, it's still making them aware
So whats the right thing to say then?? Is it fair to just say they are transwomen… and leave it at that at wag na ipilit na transwomen ang women…It is sad na puro assertion at ad hominem lng ang content ng sinabi mo, at hindi mo maprove ung arguments mo.
The only thing that makes man have advantage from women is hormones. If magdadaan sa hormone therapy ang isang tao, kabuuan ng physique nya ay mababago, unless it is too late after puberty. Besides the use of the opposite hormone, their natural hormone is blocked. This knowledge is available on google, kaya kung ipagpipilitan mo na "lalaki" padin ang isang trans, it is a pure cynicism or willful ignorance. They are not men at all. You can say that they are not women either, but the offensive part is because you insist that yhey are men.
Mapprove nating homophobia lang iyan pinapakita ninyo dahil you know that it is offensive to say to any other modification practice that you reject their changes. Parang sinabihan mo ang isang circůmcised na lalake "supot ka padin", o isang nagpa-lipo "mataba ka padin". Subukan mo sabihan ang asawa mong nagparebond na buhaghag padin siya, you will know what I mean when we say it is offensive.
di lang identity ang ipapaalam boss but the duties and responsibilities din na dala nitoMay awareness na nga….
ur still not addressing ung question about sa isang teenage boy na feeling nea girl sya at he wants to compete in girl’s sports…
Ur just avoiding the question.. even sa classroom setting pd mo iaddress yan… kahit nga outside the classroom pd mo gawin yan… so wat wud u say nga??di lang identity ang ipapaalam boss but the duties and responsibilities din na dala nito
di talaga masasagot yung tanong mo boss kasi never ako mag 1 on 1 with a boy, i always teach values education in a classroomm setting
kahit pa yung anak ko ibabalik ko pa din ang topic sa school setting, tatanungin ko lang din siya kung anu tinuro sa school tas yun pag-usapan namin
eto gusto ko school setting, no need to ask na si student niyan since yun na mismo ang lesson boss, if ever nag ask pa din then i would ask him if di niya pa din nakuha yung duties and responsibilities ng isang transgenderUr just avoiding the question.. even sa classroom setting pd mo iaddress yan… kahit nga outside the classroom pd mo gawin yan… so wat wud u say nga??
kaya nga magsisimula ako sa kung anu ang turo sa school para alam ko yung position ko, the "right away" is in fact "before puberty" yun sasabihin ko sa kanya that it cannot go once puberty starts, facts lang boss walang halong biroAnak mo tapos ibabalik mo sa school setting?? Wat if ang sabi sa kanya sa school eh ur child shud pursue ung gusto nilang gender right away and avail ung mga procedures na available sa knila to do that… papayag ka lang ba??
Normally, I would encourage him. I follow the "you be you" mantra wether I am for liberalism or conservatism. However, it will be a disservice to them to encourage them if the society as a whole will still discriminate. Jan lang ako may reservations sa fact na iyan.Would u encourage him to do that and push changes para matupad un or would u let him experience life more para mas makilala nea ang sarili nea?
Why do we even have to say anything? If they are not bothering you, why do you have to think about the label you put on them? Think of them as men if you want that is your priviledge.So whats the right thing to say then?? Is it fair to just say they are transwomen… and leave it at that at wag na ipilit na transwomen ang women
Do children know what they truly want all the time??Normally, I would encourage him. I follow the "you be you" mantra wether I am for liberalism or conservatism. However, it will be a disservice to them to encourage them if the society as a whole will still discriminate. Jan lang ako may reservations sa fact na iyan.
Pero otherwise, yes, I would encourage him with what he want if that is truly what he wants. No one has the right to "straighten" children, or any other people for that matter. We are here to support each other with our individual journeys.
Its a request as u said, i can honor it or hinde… bat “should” agad??Why do we even have to say anything? If they are not bothering you, why do you have to think about the label you put on them? Think of them as men if you want that is your priviledge.
The problem is when you limit their potential by insisting that they should be treated by society as if they are men. They should be treated how they request to be treated. And if you don't, it is their priviledge to call you out for rudeness. We all know that rudeness is wrong diba?
