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Hmm salamat sa opinion mo bossing ha, if yan ang opinion mo di kita pipilitin :) , basta para sa akin, yan sinabi ng bible at tama naman :)
 
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boss wala kang alam na saksi na umamin?
basahin mo nga yang mismong aklat nyo na NANGANGATUWERAN MULA SA KASULATAN. ano sabi sa PAGE 191? sige daw boss? ang name na jehova ay hindi kilala maging kristiano at jodio. samadaling salita bago lang lumitaw yan imbento po iyan ni Martin.kilala muna kng sino tinutokoy ko. sa huling sinabi mo na mga saksi na ang mga alagad.eh mismong kinaaniban mo umamin hindi kilala ng jodio at ng kristiano ang pangalang jehova. naku naman boss oh


at ang GAWA 22:15 hindi mo naman magiging basihan yan para tawaging kayong mga saksi ni jehova eh.hahaha basahin mo nga boss ang talata 12 ng gawa 22:15. kahit bata maintindihan yan eh.
ung iba mong mga nilatag na talata boss wala parin pong patunay na kayo ay tawaging mga saksi eh..tignan mo tulad ng isias 43:10 ang linaw naman eh kayo ang saksi ng dios na wala nang ibang dios bukod sa kanya.. db ang linaw.ang problema inangkin nyo saksi na kayo

wala po palang malinaw na dahilan bat kayo tinawag na saksi ni jehova ikaw na ngsabi hindi nyo nakita eh.
atsaka ayon sa bible boss may nakakita sa dios namukhaan pa nga eh.so mali ang claim mo na walang nakakita sa dios.. boss try mo ilatag ung laman ng mga talata na nilalatag mo.o kaya iklian mo kunti. para hindi magulo
Wala pang sinumang nakakita sa diyos. Si moises nga. Si jesus lamang makakapag sabi kung ano ang istsura at kualidad neasa paglikha.
kung sana ganoon na nga sana wala tayong mg mata ngayon..kaya mo bang bulagin ang mata mo at faith nlg ang gamitin?...tao tayo ngkakamali pwdi rin tayo mgkamali sa pipiliin natin kung saan natin ilalagay ang faith natin...dapat hindi puru faith lg

Pero diba ganyan ang ginawa ni apostol pablo? Na kung yung isa mong mata ang gumagawa ng kasalanan mas maiging tusukin monkac mas mabuting pumasok ka sa kaharian ng dyos na bulag kesa nag bubulag bulagan? Tama ka kaibigan we are not perfect, pero kung alam mong mali dumistansya kana kesa ang diyos ang didistansya sayo. Pinapaalalahanan tayo na maging malinis sa lahat ng mga bagay. Si apostol pablo ay nakikipag suntukan sa hangin para lang hindi sya magkasala, ibig sabihin nakikipag laban sya sa kanyang sarili . gayon din dapat tayo.
 
boss maging ikaw aminado imbento nga ang name na yan na Jehova. bat mo pa pilit pinagpipilitan:)
sa NBI nga pagkumuha ka ng NBI clearance at may isang letrang mali hindi na ikaw un eh
sa Dios pa kaya ng imbento ka na ng name tapos sasabihin mo ito ang tunay na name ng Dios eh imbento lang yan eh.commonsense lang ho
Eh yung paglasalin sa jesus? Bat d nagalit si jesus nung sinalin ang pangalan nea mula sa hebrew??? Bat d nag reklamo sa nbi? Haha
 
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Judge050775 ito ang isa sa problema ng bible. yong sinabi mo wala pang nakakita sa Dios TAMA KA. at MALI KA.
tama ka dahil sa talata na ito

1 John 4:12
Sinoman ay hindi nakakita kailan man sa Dios: kung tayo'y nangagiibigan, ang Dios ay nananahan sa atin, at ang kaniyang pagibig ay nagiging sakdal sa atin

VERSUS

mali ka dahil sa tala ta na ito

Genesis 32:30
At tinawag ni Jacob ang pangalan ng dakong yaon na Peniel; sapagka't aniya'y nakita ko ang Dios ng mukhaan, at naligtas ang aking buhay.
 
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walang relihiyon. at ang eglisya...tayu po mga eglisya ni cristo.
tanging simbahan lang walang relihiyon.. sasamba ka dios wag sa mga relihiyun.
jonh 4:23-24
 
Judge050775 ito ang isa sa problema ng bible. yong sinabi mo wala pang nakakita sa Dios TAMA KA. at MALI KA.
tama ka dahil sa talata na ito

1 John 4:12
Sinoman ay hindi nakakita kailan man sa Dios: kung tayo'y nangagiibigan, ang Dios ay nananahan sa atin, at ang kaniyang pagibig ay nagiging sakdal sa atin

VERSUS

mali ka dahil sa tala ta na ito

Genesis 32:30
At tinawag ni Jacob ang pangalan ng dakong yaon na Peniel; sapagka't aniya'y nakita ko ang Dios ng mukhaan, at naligtas ang aking buhay.

Kaibigan pakibasa yung genisis 32:24-28

Ngayon Gen. 32:30 vs Exo. 33:20 at john 1:18

Paki explain
 
Judge050775 ano miroon jan sa Gen 32:24-28?
yang talata na iyan ay binasa ko baka ikaw ang hindi ngbabasa hehe magka kuntradiksyon yan brod. Dios daw namukhaan ni Jacob basahin mo mabuti
 
Napakasimple lang pinapahaba niyo...

Tayo ay sumamba kung paano ang turo ng Bibliya hindi sa pamamagitan ng anumang tradisyon ng tao na nakagisnan nito...

Let us have more faith and trust in Christ Jesus alone.
 
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Judge050775 ano miroon jan sa Gen 32:24-28?
yang talata na iyan ay binasa ko baka ikaw ang hindi ngbabasa hehe magka kuntradiksyon yan brod. Dios daw namukhaan ni Jacob basahin mo mabuti
Natalo pala ang dyos kay jacob, kung sya mismo ang diyos bakit natalo kay jacob? Syaba talaga yung diyos na namukhaan ni jacob? Nag basa ka nga talaga bro.

Tyaka yung bibigay kong text anong masasabi mo? Vs sa text mo? Baka may explanation ka sa binigay ko bro? Kac ako may comment ako sa binigay mo..
 
Judge050775 basahin mo mabuti. kapag sinabi mong hindi dios yang namukhaan ni Jacob ayon sa biblia anlaki ng magiging problema mo sa next question ko
Kung diyos ang nakita ni jacob. Satingin mo makikipag laban ang diyos kay jacob? At natalo oa ang diyos kay jacob? Eh sabi ng bible na walang nakakakita sa dyos kundi mamamatay. Ngayon sa tingin mo mismong diyos kaya ang nakita ni jacob?

Paki explain
 
Judge050775 malinaw naman sa talata nakita daw ni Jacob ang Dios hehe kong ayaw mo maniwala mg protesta ka sa ngsulat nyan.

atsaka huwagkana magtaka kong tinalo ni jacob ang Dios ayon sa talata. eh mismo ngang dinidios nyong si hesus tinalo din ng mga kaaway nya dahil ayon sa inyo siya ay namatay. kaya huwag kang magtaka sa bagay na yan hehe
 
ang tanong ko since duda ka na Dios nga iyon ayon sa talata na iyon sa verse 28 ng Genesis 32 sino ang ng sabing hindi na jacob ang itatawag sayo kundi Israel? Dios ba O Hindi?
 
ang tanong ko since duda ka na Dios nga iyon ayon sa talata na iyon sa verse 28 ng Genesis 32 sino ang ng sabing hindi na jacob ang itatawag sayo kundi Israel? Dios ba O Hindi?
Nung nag baptized si jesus dba may nagpakitang kalapati sa taas at nagsalita na.sabi.ito ang aking anak? Ibig sabihin diyos din yung kalapati? Kay moises, yung apoy sa harapan nea na sabi nea ako ang dyos ibig sabihin diyos din yun? Kung naniniwala kang diyos ang nakitanni jacob d dapat maniniwala ka din jan?:))
 
Judge050775 malinaw naman sa talata nakita daw ni Jacob ang Dios hehe kong ayaw mo maniwala mg protesta ka sa ngsulat nyan.

atsaka huwagkana magtaka kong tinalo ni jacob ang Dios ayon sa talata. eh mismo ngang dinidios nyong si hesus tinalo din ng mga kaaway nya dahil ayon sa inyo siya ay namatay. kaya huwag kang magtaka sa bagay na yan hehe

Si jesus hinula yun na mamamatay sya kaya expected na yun bro.haha eh si diyos na nakita ni jacob hinula din ba?
 
ang tanong ko since duda ka na Dios nga iyon ayon sa talata na iyon sa verse 28 ng Genesis 32 sino ang ng sabing hindi na jacob ang itatawag sayo kundi Israel? Dios ba O Hindi?

Kung tatanungin mo ako kung diyos ba o hindi ang nakita ni jacob. Sagot ko hindi.... Hinding hindi. Kasi ginamit lang ng diyos ang anghel nea na magkatawang tao para makipag usap kay jacob. Anupat may anghel na nagsisilbi sa kanya? Sa pagkaka alam ko palaging gumagamit ng anghel ang diyos para maioarating ang mensaha nea noon. At tyaka kung pwede palang ang dyos ang magpakita na nilalahad sa exodo 33:20/john 1:18. Bakit si jesus pa ang pinapunta nea dto sa lupa? Bakit d sya mosmo?
 
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