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Si jesus hinula yun na mamamatay sya kaya expected na yun bro.haha eh si diyos na nakita ni jacob hinula din ba?
anong expected mga pinagsasabi mo brod isa nanaman yang kuntradiksyon sa biblia hahaha.
tignan nga natin kong expected na siya ay mamamatay?

Mateo 27:46
At nang malapit na ang oras na ikasiyam ay sumigaw si Jesus ng malakas na tinig, na sinasabi: Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? sa makatuwid baga'y, Dios ko, Dios ko bakit mo ako pinabayaan?

expected ba yan si hesus mismo sumigaw sa dios bakit siya pinabayan? db dapat sabihin nya dios ko diosko salamat at natupad na hehe salungat ka brod hehehe

atsaka sino ang huhula sa dios? tao? malabo yan brod hahahah
 
hindi naman
Kung tatanungin mo ako kung diyos ba o hindi ang nakita ni jacob. Sagot ko hindi.... Hinding hindi. Kasi ginamit lang ng diyos ang anghel nea na magkatawang tao para makipag usap kay jacob. Anupat may anghel na nagsisilbi sa kanya? Sa pagkaka alam ko palaging gumagamit ng anghel ang diyos para maioarating ang mensaha nea noon. At tyaka kung pwede palang ang dyos ang magpakita na nilalahad sa exodo 33:20/john 1:18. Bakit si jesus pa ang pinapunta nea dto sa lupa? Bakit d sya mosmo?
butata kana dito brod hahaha

Genesis 35:8-11
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At ang Dios ay napakita uli kay Jacob, nang siya'y manggaling sa Padan-aram, at siya'y pinagpala.
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At sinabi sa kaniya ng Dios, Ang pangalan mo'y Jacob; ang pangalan mo'y hindi na tatawagin pang Jacob kundi Israel ang itatawag sa iyo: at tinawag ang kaniyang pangalan na Israel.
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At sinabi sa kaniya ng Dios, Ako ang Dios na Makapangyarihan sa lahat; ikaw ay lumago at dumami ka; isang bansa at isang kapisanan ng mga bansa ang magmumula sa iyo, at mga hari ay lalabas sa iyong balakang;

hahaha pagnilaynilayan mo brod yang talata:)
isa pa hindi naman tinatawag na Dios ang mga anghel hehe lalo pat si Jacob na isang propeta
 
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Nung nag baptized si jesus dba may nagpakitang kalapati sa taas at nagsalita na.sabi.ito ang aking anak? Ibig sabihin diyos din yung kalapati? Kay moises, yung apoy sa harapan nea na sabi nea ako ang dyos ibig sabihin diyos din yun? Kung naniniwala kang diyos ang nakitanni jacob d dapat maniniwala ka din jan?:))
o hindi bat ginawa ding dios yang kalapati ng ibang kristian kaya nga tatlo sila ama+anak+kalapati hehe
 
anong expected mga pinagsasabi mo brod isa nanaman yang kuntradiksyon sa biblia hahaha.
tignan nga natin kong expected na siya ay mamamatay?

Mateo 27:46
At nang malapit na ang oras na ikasiyam ay sumigaw si Jesus ng malakas na tinig, na sinasabi: Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? sa makatuwid baga'y, Dios ko, Dios ko bakit mo ako pinabayaan?

expected ba yan si hesus mismo sumigaw sa dios bakit siya pinabayan? db dapat sabihin nya dios ko diosko salamat at natupad na hehe salungat ka brod hehehe

atsaka sino ang huhula sa dios? tao? malabo yan brod hahahah
Hinula na yan ang mamgyayari kau jesus daang taon nakalipas bago nangyari.haha inabangan nga ang mesiah sa pagfating nea mismong si jesus nadin ang nagsabi sa kanyang apostol na mamatay sya kac sya ang sacrifice o haing pantubos sa kadalanan mo ang angas mo.
 
Hinula na yan ang mamgyayari kau jesus daang taon nakalipas bago nangyari.haha inabangan nga ang mesiah sa pagfating nea mismong si jesus nadin ang nagsabi sa kanyang apostol na mamatay sya kac sya ang sacrifice o haing pantubos sa kadalanan mo ang angas mo.
Tutulan mo ang sinabi ni hesus ang Dios ko Dios ko bakit mo ako pinabayaan. hehehe
kong taga pagtubos siya dapat sasabihin nya Dios ko Dios ko salamat at natupad na hehe tama ba ako brod?

at ang pagtubos ng kasalanan ay kuntra yan sa biblia brod

DEUT 24:16
Hindi papatayin ang mga magulang dahil sa mga anak, ni ang mga anak ay papatayin dahil sa mga magulang; bawa't tao'y papatayin dahil sa kaniyang sariling kasalanan.

JEREMIAS 31:30
Nguni't bawa't isa ay mamamatay ng dahil sa kaniyang sariling kasamaan: lahat na nagsisikain ng mga maasim na ubas ay magsisipangilo ang mga ngipin.

EZEKIEL 18:20
Ang kaluluwa na nagkakasala, mamamatay: ang anak ay hindi magdadanas ng kasamaan ng ama, o magdadanas man ang ama ng kasamaan ng anak; ang katuwiran ng matuwid ay sasa kaniya, at ang kasamaan ng masama ay sasa kaniya.

Patunay na walang manang kasalanan ang tao

MATEO 19:14
Datapuwa't sinabi ni Jesus, Pabayaan ninyo ang maliliit na bata, at huwag ninyong pagbawalan silang magsilapit sa akin: sapagka't sa mga ganito ang kaharian ng langit.

:):):)
 
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The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God—three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who are God. Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity:

1) There is one God (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.,You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). In You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.,You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity.

In You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. to You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. to see that it is the Son speaking. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity.

3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The LORD has a Son (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.;You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) and from “God” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another Person in the Trinity—the Father.

4) Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The Son is God (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The Holy Spirit is God (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.;You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

5) There is subordination within the Trinity. Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any Person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. Concerning the Holy Spirit see You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., and especially You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

6) The individual members of the Trinity have different tasks. The Father is the ultimate source or cause of the universe (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); divine revelation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); salvation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); and Jesus' human works (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The Father initiates all of these things.

The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: the creation and maintenance of the universe (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); divine revelation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); and salvation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.

The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: creation and maintenance of the universe (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); divine revelation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); salvation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); and Jesus' works (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). Thus, the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit.

There have been many attempts to develop You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. However, none of the popular illustrations are completely accurate. The egg (or apple) fails in that the shell, white, and yolk are parts of the egg, not the egg in themselves, just as the skin, flesh, and seeds of the apple are parts of it, not the apple itself. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not parts of God; each of them is God. The water illustration is somewhat better, but it still fails to adequately describe the Trinity. Liquid, vapor, and ice are forms of water. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not forms of God, each of them is God. So, while these illustrations may give us a picture of the Trinity, the picture is not entirely accurate. An infinite God cannot be fully described by a finite illustration.

The doctrine of the Trinity has been a divisive issue throughout the entire history of the Christian church. While the core aspects of the Trinity are clearly presented in God’s Word, some of the side issues are not as explicitly clear. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God—but there is only one God. That is the biblical doctrine of the Trinity. Beyond that, the issues are, to a certain extent, debatable and non-essential. Rather than attempting to fully define the Trinity with our finite human minds, we would be better served by focusing on the fact of God's greatness and His infinitely higher nature. “Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).
But trinity isnt in the bible itself. I suspect that there is an intelligent being who invented it. Then popularized it to be a christian icon word. Orayt.
 
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