hehehe...(di naman sa ng mamagaling ako ah o mgmamataas.) ngbabasa aq nyan dati at may guide ako patungkol sa mga verses nyan na hindi naangkop o hindi tama o makikita mo ang katotohanan.. (di rin sa na brainwash o na mindset ako noon) pero hindi naman kasi sya ganun ka lalim para mahirap intindihin.. Ahahah at lastly,sadya talaga ang pgkakagawa ng mga kataga sa bible na maraming pedeng ibig sabihin(lamona!)matatalino ang gumawa nyan. kaya pass nako dyan kung bible lang ang pag uusapan. At sagot ko para sa TS nito "hindi".
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hehehe...(di naman sa ng mamagaling ako ah o mgmamataas.) ngbabasa aq nyan dati at may guide ako patungkol sa mga verses nyan na hindi naangkop o hindi tama o makikita mo ang katotohanan.. (di rin sa na brainwash o na mindset ako noon) pero hindi naman kasi sya ganun ka lalim para mahirap intindihin.. Ahahah at lastly,sadya talaga ang pgkakagawa ng mga kataga sa bible na maraming pedeng ibig sabihin(lamona!)matatalino ang gumawa nyan. kaya pass nako dyan kung bible lang ang pag uusapan. At sagot ko para sa TS nito "hindi".
Lets-All-Love-Lain
Eternal Poster
ask ko lang po. bakit po ang hostile nyo sa bible? ano po ba ginawa ng libro sa inyo?
Really read your bible, malalaman mo, kaya kasi kayo naniniwala dahil sinabi lang ng pinuno nyo, pero mga tamad magbasa ng biblia.
Trivia. Ano ang di kayang gawin ng diyos maliban sa pakialaman ang freewill kuno?
Ans. Di nya kayang lumaban sa army with "chariots of iron". Judges 1:9 weak e.
Silent Doer
Honorary Poster
Wag nang patulan mga ka ts..wala sa masama na makakunawa ng kabutihan...gud luck sayo kaibigan.
Lets-All-Love-Lain
Eternal Poster
ahh.... okay pero natalo parin ung canaan so ano problema mo dun sa verse?
may buff lang kase ung army ni joshua biruin mo inubos nila ung army dun sa bezek. tapos ang sabi ung top hill na units ng kalaban di na naubos kase marami na at may chariots pa.. so ano ung problema mo dun?
Edit: free spirit po ako. mahilig lang ako magbasa ng libro na mukang interisado.
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I have no problem with the verse your god did, he cant go against chariots of iron. yan ang sabi ng biblia,kaya siguro almost atheist ang japan kasi manufacturer ng iron cars.lols.
hinidi ipagdadamot sa inyo ni Lord yung katotohanan kung gusto nyo talaga malaman kaya lang kaya hindi nyo malaman kasi nalaman na ni Lord na pulot2 lang ang inyong mga nalalaman at ayaw nyo talagang may malaman kasi nga ayaw nyo naman
cge po,maraming salamat po,,ehhe, naway sa pagbabasa nyo DATi eh may natutunan kayo at about sa guide mo sa pagbabasa salamat sa kanya,, at sana naman po sa pag basa nyo DATI eh nalaman nyo naman po sana kung sino po yung mga author ng mga book sa bible ( kung totoo nga na nag basa ka at naintindihan mo po) btw po pala, 4 sa mga sumulat ng bible is FISHERMAN lang at wala po silang proper na pinag-aralan( basa basa din po) hindi po sila kasing talino mo na nakapag aral na base sa sinabi mo na ""sadya talaga ang pgkakagawa ng mga kataga sa bible na maraming pedeng ibig sabihin(lamona!)""( MALI!!) mag basa po kayo ha, wag sasali sa mga ganitong usapan kung wala po talagang nalalaman, salamat po,GOD BLESS YOU
cge po,maraming salamat po,,ehhe, naway sa pagbabasa nyo DATi eh may natutunan kayo at about sa guide mo sa pagbabasa salamat sa kanya,, at sana naman po sa pag basa nyo DATI eh nalaman nyo naman po sana kung sino po yung mga author ng mga book sa bible ( kung totoo nga na nag basa ka at naintindihan mo po) btw po pala, 4 sa mga sumulat ng bible is FISHERMAN lang at wala po silang proper na pinag-aralan( basa basa din po) hindi po sila kasing talino mo na nakapag aral na base sa sinabi mo na ""sadya talaga ang pgkakagawa ng mga kataga sa bible na maraming pedeng ibig sabihin(lamona!)""( MALI!!) mag basa po kayo ha, wag sasali sa mga ganitong usapan kung wala po talagang nalalaman, salamat po,GOD BLESS YOU
A question from an atheist: Why would Jesus want you to eat His body and drink His blood?
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Now we know by this question, that these imaginary people are living in their idiotic world understanding only their language of ignorance and impertinence. They speak of hypocrisy and lies like their adopted father.
JOHN 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
The Lord Jesus said to His disciples:
JOHN 6:51-54
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
The commandment says: “Eat the bread which came down from heaven”, that is His body. Does it sound cannibalistic?
He further emphasized that that bread is His flesh. When the disciples did not understand what He meant, He explained that He is speaking of spiritual things.
JOHN 6:60-63
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, this is a hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, doth this offend you?
62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
The flesh of Jesus or His body is the manifestation of all perfection and holiness attainable by any human being that believes. Eating it spiritually means receiving the glory in it so that it can also be present in your person.
JOHN 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The grace and the truth that is in the ‘corporeal’ body of Christ, if eaten or received, can be transferred or reflected in the person of a believer.
ROMANS 8:29
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Jesus is an example to follow. He is the role model to every Christian.
1 PETER 2:21
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps…
These imaginary people live in a world of seclusion: having a kind of language deprived of figures of speech, idiomatic expressions, and above all, spirituality. If they hear you say, “Eat crow”, then they will say, “I am not eating crow”. If you say, “I’ll eat my hat”, then they will laugh at you, and presume that you are extremely hungry, because you will “eat your hat”.
It sounds stupid, isn’t it?
But an intelligent and educated Christian knows the language of the Bible and the spiritual things that it teaches.
PROVERBS 8:8-9
8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
In the Book of Revelation, John, the disciple, was commanded to eat a scroll or a book.
REVELATION 10:9-10
9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
10 And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
It was an angel who told John to “eat the book”, and John was in the spirit that day.
REVELATION 1:10
I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet…
These verses speak of spiritual things that sound foolish to the ungodly.
1 CORINTHIANS 2:14 (RSV)
The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
Linguists use the phrase “digest the book”.
(e.i) “Reading is important for personal and professional development. If you want to grow your knowledge, you have to read. Reading is a tip of the iceberg though, digesting the information is the bigger piece on the block of ice. Here is something that is useful – George Ambler introduces a process to read and digest a book…”
Source (2007): http://www.lifehäçk.org/articles/lifehäçk/how-to-read-and-digest-a-book.html
To digest a book means to absorb mentally the information in it. When the angel said to John, “eat the book”, it biblically and spiritually means that John must absorb the knowledge written in it. These wise words of the angel to John will surely be misinterpreted by these imaginary people! DO NOT TELL THEM TO EAT THEIR HEART OUT. They will surely be cannibals.
I do not want to claim to have read and digested the entire Bible, but the things I had, so far, read and digested had brought me to the conclusion that the Bible is a wonderful book; unparalleled in wisdom, understanding, and precise informations in science, history and morals, that can not rationally be refuted by the wisest man on earth.
I dedicate the following poem with an unknown author to my dear readers.
Yes I thought I knew my Bible
Reading piecemeal, hit or miss
Now a part of John or Matthew
Then a bit of Genesis
Certain chapters of Isaiah
Certain psalms, the twenty-third
First of Proverbs, twelfth of Romans
Yes, I thought I knew the Word.
But I found that thorough reading
Was a different thing to do
And the way was unfamiliar
When I read my Bible through
You who like to play at Bible
Dip and dabble here there
Just before you kneel all weary
Yawning through a hurried prayer.
You who treat this crown of writings
As you treat no other book
Just a paragraph disjointed
Just a crude impatient look.
Try a worthier procedure
Try a broad and steady view;
You will kneel in awesome wonder
When you read the Bible through.
God bless.
9/22/2018 0 Comments
Now we know by this question, that these imaginary people are living in their idiotic world understanding only their language of ignorance and impertinence. They speak of hypocrisy and lies like their adopted father.
JOHN 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
The Lord Jesus said to His disciples:
JOHN 6:51-54
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
The commandment says: “Eat the bread which came down from heaven”, that is His body. Does it sound cannibalistic?
He further emphasized that that bread is His flesh. When the disciples did not understand what He meant, He explained that He is speaking of spiritual things.
JOHN 6:60-63
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, this is a hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, doth this offend you?
62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
The flesh of Jesus or His body is the manifestation of all perfection and holiness attainable by any human being that believes. Eating it spiritually means receiving the glory in it so that it can also be present in your person.
JOHN 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The grace and the truth that is in the ‘corporeal’ body of Christ, if eaten or received, can be transferred or reflected in the person of a believer.
ROMANS 8:29
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Jesus is an example to follow. He is the role model to every Christian.
1 PETER 2:21
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps…
These imaginary people live in a world of seclusion: having a kind of language deprived of figures of speech, idiomatic expressions, and above all, spirituality. If they hear you say, “Eat crow”, then they will say, “I am not eating crow”. If you say, “I’ll eat my hat”, then they will laugh at you, and presume that you are extremely hungry, because you will “eat your hat”.
It sounds stupid, isn’t it?
But an intelligent and educated Christian knows the language of the Bible and the spiritual things that it teaches.
PROVERBS 8:8-9
8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
In the Book of Revelation, John, the disciple, was commanded to eat a scroll or a book.
REVELATION 10:9-10
9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
10 And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
It was an angel who told John to “eat the book”, and John was in the spirit that day.
REVELATION 1:10
I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet…
These verses speak of spiritual things that sound foolish to the ungodly.
1 CORINTHIANS 2:14 (RSV)
The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
Linguists use the phrase “digest the book”.
(e.i) “Reading is important for personal and professional development. If you want to grow your knowledge, you have to read. Reading is a tip of the iceberg though, digesting the information is the bigger piece on the block of ice. Here is something that is useful – George Ambler introduces a process to read and digest a book…”
Source (2007): http://www.lifehäçk.org/articles/lifehäçk/how-to-read-and-digest-a-book.html
To digest a book means to absorb mentally the information in it. When the angel said to John, “eat the book”, it biblically and spiritually means that John must absorb the knowledge written in it. These wise words of the angel to John will surely be misinterpreted by these imaginary people! DO NOT TELL THEM TO EAT THEIR HEART OUT. They will surely be cannibals.
I do not want to claim to have read and digested the entire Bible, but the things I had, so far, read and digested had brought me to the conclusion that the Bible is a wonderful book; unparalleled in wisdom, understanding, and precise informations in science, history and morals, that can not rationally be refuted by the wisest man on earth.
I dedicate the following poem with an unknown author to my dear readers.
Yes I thought I knew my Bible
Reading piecemeal, hit or miss
Now a part of John or Matthew
Then a bit of Genesis
Certain chapters of Isaiah
Certain psalms, the twenty-third
First of Proverbs, twelfth of Romans
Yes, I thought I knew the Word.
But I found that thorough reading
Was a different thing to do
And the way was unfamiliar
When I read my Bible through
You who like to play at Bible
Dip and dabble here there
Just before you kneel all weary
Yawning through a hurried prayer.
You who treat this crown of writings
As you treat no other book
Just a paragraph disjointed
Just a crude impatient look.
Try a worthier procedure
Try a broad and steady view;
You will kneel in awesome wonder
When you read the Bible through.
God bless.
may iba ng sasabi ang bible ang dios ang author. ito naman 4 na fisherman hehe.
pero alam ko karamihan sa talata sa biblia ay tsismis lang. tulad nalang halmbawa AYON kay mateo AYON kay lucas AYON kay marcos AYON kay juan[/QUOT
hindi ko po sinabi
may iba ng sasabi ang bible ang dios ang author. ito naman 4 na fisherman hehe.
pero alam ko karamihan sa talata sa biblia ay tsismis lang. tulad nalang halmbawa AYON kay mateo AYON kay lucas AYON kay marcos AYON kay juan
yan po na papala pag hindi talaga nag babasa, sorry po, pero masasabi ko po sa yo eh,, pag basa po kayo o di kaya mag research, kaibiginin mo po si google ha, wag po intro2 lang ng walang alam para iwas bash,basahin din po nga mabuti yung context ng comment ko ha, sabi ( 4 SA MGA SUMULAT NG BIBLE AY FISHERMAN) malinaw na po ba? hindi ko po sinabi na ANG SUMULAN NG BIBLE AY 4 NA FISHERMAN wag mo po sana ipahiya ang sarili,please
basa po ng mabuti bago makisali,,btw po ,, bilib naman talaga ako sa TSISMIS na sinasabi mo, ang lupet ng tsismis NI MATTHWE MARK LUKE AND JOHN , ibang klaseng tsismis nasulat sa LIBRO at tumagal ng mahigit 2000years at pinaniniwalaan ng karamihan sa PILIPINAS ngayon na kung saan ka nakatira, baka sa susunod tsismis sa kapitbahay nyo magulat ka nasa LIBRO NA,,hahahaaha
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ito po sabi nyo boss>> 4 sa mga sumulat ng bible is FISHERMAN langyan po na papala pag hindi talaga nag babasa, sorry po, pero masasabi ko po sa yo eh,, pag basa po kayo o di kaya mag research, kaibiginin mo po si google ha, wag po intro2 lang ng walang alam para iwas bash,basahin din po nga mabuti yung context ng comment ko ha, sabi ( 4 SA MGA SUMULAT NG BIBLE AY FISHERMAN) malinaw na po ba? hindi ko po sinabi na ANG SUMULAN NG BIBLE AY 4 NA FISHERMAN wag mo po sana ipahiya ang sarili,please
ano naman po mali sa sinabi ko na may iba ng sasabi ang bible ang dios ang author. ito naman 4 na fisherman hehe.?
basahin nyo po ang bible mababasa nyo According to mateo lucas marcos juan. pagsinabi mong ayon hindi po si mateo lucas marcos o juan ang ang nagsasalita jan. may ibang taong involved na nagkukuwento nyan. samadaling salita po tsismis yan dahil AYON nga. sa korte nga kapag sinabing ayon ay itinutoring na tsismis
isa pa po ang mateo daw ang ng sulat ng mateo ay si mateo. basahin nyo
MATEO PAGE 1
MATEO PAGE 2
MATEO PAGE 3
MATEO PAGE 4
MATEO PAGE 5
MATEO PAGE 6
MATEO PAGE 7
MATEO PAGE 8
hindi nyo matatagpuan jan si mateo sa mga nabangit sa taas. dito nyo po matatagpuan si mateo
mateo 9:9. so sa madaling salita PAGE 1-8 ay imbento lang yan walang kinalaman jan si mateo bunga lang yan ng isang tsismis
"( MALI!!) mag basa po kayo ha, wag sasali sa mga ganitong usapan kung wala po talagang nalalaman, salamat po,GOD BLESS YOU
Ok!,
mahalin nalang po nating ang mundo ating kinagisnan. Sa pag uunawa ay iba-iba tayo nang napupunda. Wala namana akong problima sa mga naniniwala pati narin sa mga librong inyong gabay.
Ok!,
mahalin nalang po nating ang mundo ating kinagisnan. Sa pag uunawa ay iba-iba tayo nang napupunda. Wala namana akong problima sa mga naniniwala pati narin sa mga librong inyong gabay.
according sa christian ang bible i salita ng Diyos...ang tanong ng mga muslim saan or pakituro sa bible na nagsabi o nagpapatunay na ang bible e salita ng Diyos.
------ sana may makasagot pay may maisagot din ako sa mga brother & sister natin na muslim.
according naman sa mga Muslim ang Quran ay talagang salita ni Prophet Mohammad dahil buhay pa siay ng sinulat ito.
------ san may maka explain para maliwanagan ako.
------ sana may makasagot pay may maisagot din ako sa mga brother & sister natin na muslim.
according naman sa mga Muslim ang Quran ay talagang salita ni Prophet Mohammad dahil buhay pa siay ng sinulat ito.
------ san may maka explain para maliwanagan ako.
inabot na po tayo ng page28 wala pang nakalatag ng talata sa biblia na ang biblia ay sinabi ng Dios na kanya itong salita o inangkin manlang nya na galing sa kanya ang biblia
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Lets-All-Love-Lain
Eternal Poster
kung tatanungin mo ung scientist na japanese michio kaku well renowned physicist naniniwala sya at colleagues nya. at dun sa sinabi mo napaka strawman ng argument mo wala ka nasabi na ung iron chariots na sinasabi mo ay di daw kaya ng god in bible. ito para mabasa mo ung buong kwento.
1 Now after the death of Joshua it came to pass, that the children of Israel asked the Lord, saying, Who shall go up for us against the Canaanites first, to fight against them?
2 And the Lord said, Judah shall go up: behold, I have delivered the land into his hand.
3 And Judah said unto Simeon his brother, Come up with me into my lot, that we may fight against the Canaanites; and I likewise will go with thee into thy lot. So Simeon went with him.
4 And Judah went up; and the Lord delivered the Canaanites and the Perizzites into their hand: and they slew of them in Bezek ten thousand men.
5 And they found Adonibezek in Bezek: and they fought against him, and they slew the Canaanites and the Perizzites.
6 But Adonibezek fled; and they pursued after him, and caught him, and cut off his thumbs and his great toes.
7 And Adonibezek said, Threescore and ten kings, having their thumbs and their great toes cut off, gathered their meat under my table: as I have done, so God hath requited me. And they brought him to Jerusalem, and there he died.
8 Now the children of Judah had fought against Jerusalem, and had taken it, and smitten it with the edge of the sword, and set the city on fire.
9 And afterward the children of Judah went down to fight against the Canaanites, that dwelt in the mountain, and in the south, and in the valley.
10 And Judah went against the Canaanites that dwelt in Hebron: (now the name of Hebron before was Kirjatharba
and they slew Sheshai, and Ahiman, and Talmai.11 And from thence he went against the inhabitants of Debir: and the name of Debir before was Kirjathsepher:
12 And Caleb said, He that smiteth Kirjathsepher, and taketh it, to him will I give Achsah my daughter to wife.
13 And Othniel the son of Kenaz, Caleb's younger brother, took it: and he gave him Achsah his daughter to wife.
14 And it came to pass, when she came to him, that she moved him to ask of her father a field: and she lighted from off her ass; and Caleb said unto her, What wilt thou?
15 And she said unto him, Give me a blessing: for thou hast given me a south land; give me also springs of water. And Caleb gave her the upper springs and the nether springs.
16 And the children of the Kenite, Moses' father in law, went up out of the city of palm trees with the children of Judah into the wilderness of Judah, which lieth in the south of Arad; and they went and dwelt among the people.
17 And Judah went with Simeon his brother, and they slew the Canaanites that inhabited Zephath, and utterly destroyed it. And the name of the city was called Hormah.
18 Also Judah took Gaza with the coast thereof, and Askelon with the coast thereof, and Ekron with the coast thereof.
19 And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
20 And they gave Hebron unto Caleb, as Moses said: and he expelled thence the three sons of Anak.
21 And the children of Benjamin did not drive out the Jebusites that inhabited Jerusalem; but the Jebusites dwell with the children of Benjamin in Jerusalem unto this day.
22 And the house of Joseph, they also went up against Bethel: and the Lord was with them.
23 And the house of Joseph sent to descry Bethel. (Now the name of the city before was Luz.)
24 And the spies saw a man come forth out of the city, and they said unto him, Shew us, we pray thee, the entrance into the city, and we will shew thee mercy.
25 And when he shewed them the entrance into the city, they smote the city with the edge of the sword; but they let go the man and all his family.
26 And the man went into the land of the Hittites, and built a city, and called the name thereof Luz: which is the name thereof unto this day.
27 Neither did Manasseh drive out the inhabitants of Bethshean and her towns, nor Taanach and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Dor and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Ibleam and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Megiddo and her towns: but the Canaanites would dwell in that land.
28 And it came to pass, when Israel was strong, that they put the Canaanites to tribute, and did not utterly drive them out.
29 Neither did Ephraim drive out the Canaanites that dwelt in Gezer; but the Canaanites dwelt in Gezer among them.
30 Neither did Zebulun drive out the inhabitants of Kitron, nor the inhabitants of Nahalol; but the Canaanites dwelt among them, and became tributaries.
31 Neither did Asher drive out the inhabitants of Accho, nor the inhabitants of Zidon, nor of Ahlab, nor of Achzib, nor of Helbah, nor of Aphik, nor of Rehob:
32 But the Asherites dwelt among the Canaanites, the inhabitants of the land: for they did not drive them out.
33 Neither did Naphtali drive out the inhabitants of Bethshemesh, nor the inhabitants of Bethanath; but he dwelt among the Canaanites, the inhabitants of the land: nevertheless the inhabitants of Bethshemesh and of Bethanath became tributaries unto them.
34 And the Amorites forced the children of Dan into the mountain: for they would not suffer them to come down to the valley:
35 But the Amorites would dwell in mount Heres in Aijalon, and in Shaalbim: yet the hand of the house of Joseph prevailed, so that they became tributaries.
36 And the coast of the Amorites was from the going up to Akrabbim, from the rock, and upward.
Judges 2 King James Version (KJV)
2 And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.
2 And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this?
3 Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you.
4 And it came to pass, when the angel of the Lord spake these words unto all the children of Israel, that the people lifted up their voice, and wept.
5 And they called the name of that place Bochim: and they sacrificed there unto the Lord.
6 And when Joshua had let the people go, the children of Israel went every man unto his inheritance to possess the land.
7 And the people served the Lord all the days of Joshua, and all the days of the elders that outlived Joshua, who had seen all the great works of the Lord, that he did for Israel.
8 And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of the Lord, died, being an hundred and ten years old.
9 And they buried him in the border of his inheritance in Timnathheres, in the mount of Ephraim, on the north side of the hill Gaash.
10 And also all that generation were gathered unto their fathers: and there arose another generation after them, which knew not the Lord, nor yet the works which he had done for Israel.
11 And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord, and served Baalim:
12 And they forsook the Lord God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the Lord to anger.
13 And they forsook the Lord, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.
14 And the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel, and he delivered them into the hands of spoilers that spoiled them, and he sold them into the hands of their enemies round about, so that they could not any longer stand before their enemies.
15 Whithersoever they went out, the hand of the Lord was against them for evil, as the Lord had said, and as the Lord had sworn unto them: and they were greatly distressed.
16 Nevertheless the Lord raised up judges, which delivered them out of the hand of those that spoiled them.
17 And yet they would not hearken unto their judges, but they went a whoring after other gods, and bowed themselves unto them: they turned quickly out of the way which their fathers walked in, obeying the commandments of the Lord; but they did not so.
18 And when the Lord raised them up judges, then the Lord was with the judge, and delivered them out of the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge: for it repented the Lord because of their groanings by reason of them that oppressed them and vexed them.
19 And it came to pass, when the judge was dead, that they returned, and corrupted themselves more than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them, and to bow down unto them; they ceased not from their own doings, nor from their stubborn way.
20 And the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel; and he said, Because that this people hath transgressed my covenant which I commanded their fathers, and have not hearkened unto my voice;
21 I also will not henceforth drive out any from before them of the nations which Joshua left when he died:
22 That through them I may prove Israel, whether they will keep the way of the Lord to walk therein, as their fathers did keep it, or not.
23 Therefore the Lord left those nations, without driving them out hastily; neither delivered he them into the hand of Joshua.
yan... magbasa ka po pagkatapos matalo ung 10k units dun sa bezek di na nila pinatay ung mga nasa top hill na may mga iron chariots dahil isipin mo ung kinalaban nila ay mismong trained na army vs mga peasant at whatnot pero na conquer parin nila ung bezek at ung israel... so ano nagawa ng iron chariots na sinasabi mo? nasaan na ung di kaya? wag ka mag cherry pick ng lines nagmumuka ka pong ignorante na feeling alam ung binabasa po.....
bilangin mo kung ilang city ung na conquer nila bago nila inatake ung sa mountain side na may iron chariots lol mga train army vs pagod na peasants.
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thanks for calling me ignorant. i guess Youre not, thanks for posting the whole passage to make your point, im enlightened.kung tatanungin mo ung scientist na japanese michio kaku well renowned physicist naniniwala sya at colleagues nya. at dun sa sinabi mo napaka strawman ng argument mo wala ka nasabi na ung iron chariots na sinasabi mo ay di daw kaya ng god in bible. ito para mabasa mo ung buong kwento.
1 Now after the death of Joshua it came to pass, that the children of Israel asked the Lord, saying, Who shall go up for us against the Canaanites first, to fight against them?
2 And the Lord said, Judah shall go up: behold, I have delivered the land into his hand.
3 And Judah said unto Simeon his brother, Come up with me into my lot, that we may fight against the Canaanites; and I likewise will go with thee into thy lot. So Simeon went with him.
4 And Judah went up; and the Lord delivered the Canaanites and the Perizzites into their hand: and they slew of them in Bezek ten thousand men.
5 And they found Adonibezek in Bezek: and they fought against him, and they slew the Canaanites and the Perizzites.
6 But Adonibezek fled; and they pursued after him, and caught him, and cut off his thumbs and his great toes.
7 And Adonibezek said, Threescore and ten kings, having their thumbs and their great toes cut off, gathered their meat under my table: as I have done, so God hath requited me. And they brought him to Jerusalem, and there he died.
8 Now the children of Judah had fought against Jerusalem, and had taken it, and smitten it with the edge of the sword, and set the city on fire.
9 And afterward the children of Judah went down to fight against the Canaanites, that dwelt in the mountain, and in the south, and in the valley.
10 And Judah went against the Canaanites that dwelt in Hebron: (now the name of Hebron before was Kirjatharba
11 And from thence he went against the inhabitants of Debir: and the name of Debir before was Kirjathsepher:
12 And Caleb said, He that smiteth Kirjathsepher, and taketh it, to him will I give Achsah my daughter to wife.
13 And Othniel the son of Kenaz, Caleb's younger brother, took it: and he gave him Achsah his daughter to wife.
14 And it came to pass, when she came to him, that she moved him to ask of her father a field: and she lighted from off her ***; and Caleb said unto her, What wilt thou?
15 And she said unto him, Give me a blessing: for thou hast given me a south land; give me also springs of water. And Caleb gave her the upper springs and the nether springs.
16 And the children of the Kenite, Moses' father in law, went up out of the city of palm trees with the children of Judah into the wilderness of Judah, which lieth in the south of Arad; and they went and dwelt among the people.
17 And Judah went with Simeon his brother, and they slew the Canaanites that inhabited Zephath, and utterly destroyed it. And the name of the city was called Hormah.
18 Also Judah took Gaza with the coast thereof, and Askelon with the coast thereof, and Ekron with the coast thereof.
19 And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
20 And they gave Hebron unto Caleb, as Moses said: and he expelled thence the three sons of Anak.
21 And the children of Benjamin did not drive out the Jebusites that inhabited Jerusalem; but the Jebusites dwell with the children of Benjamin in Jerusalem unto this day.
22 And the house of Joseph, they also went up against Bethel: and the Lord was with them.
23 And the house of Joseph sent to descry Bethel. (Now the name of the city before was Luz.)
24 And the spies saw a man come forth out of the city, and they said unto him, Shew us, we pray thee, the entrance into the city, and we will shew thee mercy.
25 And when he shewed them the entrance into the city, they smote the city with the edge of the sword; but they let go the man and all his family.
26 And the man went into the land of the Hittites, and built a city, and called the name thereof Luz: which is the name thereof unto this day.
27 Neither did Manasseh drive out the inhabitants of Bethshean and her towns, nor Taanach and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Dor and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Ibleam and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Megiddo and her towns: but the Canaanites would dwell in that land.
28 And it came to pass, when Israel was strong, that they put the Canaanites to tribute, and did not utterly drive them out.
29 Neither did Ephraim drive out the Canaanites that dwelt in Gezer; but the Canaanites dwelt in Gezer among them.
30 Neither did Zebulun drive out the inhabitants of Kitron, nor the inhabitants of Nahalol; but the Canaanites dwelt among them, and became tributaries.
31 Neither did Asher drive out the inhabitants of Accho, nor the inhabitants of Zidon, nor of Ahlab, nor of Achzib, nor of Helbah, nor of Aphik, nor of Rehob:
32 But the Asherites dwelt among the Canaanites, the inhabitants of the land: for they did not drive them out.
33 Neither did Naphtali drive out the inhabitants of Bethshemesh, nor the inhabitants of Bethanath; but he dwelt among the Canaanites, the inhabitants of the land: nevertheless the inhabitants of Bethshemesh and of Bethanath became tributaries unto them.
34 And the Amorites forced the children of Dan into the mountain: for they would not suffer them to come down to the valley:
35 But the Amorites would dwell in mount Heres in Aijalon, and in Shaalbim: yet the hand of the house of Joseph prevailed, so that they became tributaries.
36 And the coast of the Amorites was from the going up to Akrabbim, from the rock, and upward.
Judges 2 King James Version (KJV)
2 And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.
2 And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this?
3 Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you.
4 And it came to pass, when the angel of the Lord spake these words unto all the children of Israel, that the people lifted up their voice, and wept.
5 And they called the name of that place Bochim: and they sacrificed there unto the Lord.
6 And when Joshua had let the people go, the children of Israel went every man unto his inheritance to possess the land.
7 And the people served the Lord all the days of Joshua, and all the days of the elders that outlived Joshua, who had seen all the great works of the Lord, that he did for Israel.
8 And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of the Lord, died, being an hundred and ten years old.
9 And they buried him in the border of his inheritance in Timnathheres, in the mount of Ephraim, on the north side of the hill Gaash.
10 And also all that generation were gathered unto their fathers: and there arose another generation after them, which knew not the Lord, nor yet the works which he had done for Israel.
11 And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord, and served Baalim:
12 And they forsook the Lord God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the Lord to anger.
13 And they forsook the Lord, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.
14 And the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel, and he delivered them into the hands of spoilers that spoiled them, and he sold them into the hands of their enemies round about, so that they could not any longer stand before their enemies.
15 Whithersoever they went out, the hand of the Lord was against them for evil, as the Lord had said, and as the Lord had sworn unto them: and they were greatly distressed.
16 Nevertheless the Lord raised up judges, which delivered them out of the hand of those that spoiled them.
17 And yet they would not hearken unto their judges, but they went a whoring after other gods, and bowed themselves unto them: they turned quickly out of the way which their fathers walked in, obeying the commandments of the Lord; but they did not so.
18 And when the Lord raised them up judges, then the Lord was with the judge, and delivered them out of the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge: for it repented the Lord because of their groanings by reason of them that oppressed them and vexed them.
19 And it came to pass, when the judge was dead, that they returned, and corrupted themselves more than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them, and to bow down unto them; they ceased not from their own doings, nor from their stubborn way.
20 And the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel; and he said, Because that this people hath transgressed my covenant which I commanded their fathers, and have not hearkened unto my voice;
21 I also will not henceforth drive out any from before them of the nations which Joshua left when he died:
22 That through them I may prove Israel, whether they will keep the way of the Lord to walk therein, as their fathers did keep it, or not.
23 Therefore the Lord left those nations, without driving them out hastily; neither delivered he them into the hand of Joshua.
yan... magbasa ka po pagkatapos matalo ung 10k units dun sa bezek di na nila pinatay ung mga nasa top hill na may mga iron chariots dahil isipin mo ung kinalaban nila ay mismong trained na army vs mga peasant at whatnot pero na conquer parin nila ung bezek at ung israel... so ano nagawa ng iron chariots na sinasabi mo? nasaan na ung di kaya? wag ka mag cherry pick ng lines nagmumuka ka pong ignorante na feeling alam ung binabasa po.....
bilangin mo kung ilang city ung na conquer nila bago nila inatake ung sa mountain side na may iron chariots lol mga train army vs pagod na peasants.
And please remove that one verse that made your god weak.
And all the bible stupidities you believe like talking snake and donkeys.
by the way a talking rooster cursed me when I was on my way home. I know you will not think im crazy, cause talking snakes are real in the bible. I catch jobs unicorn too yesterday.
di pa tapos to??? hahahah
Humans created a story that God created us. hahahah ganyan kasi isip nuon kasi wla pang science? hirap ba intindihin???
esep.esep minsan... ayaw kasi nila mg worship ng araw,water,air na nagbibigay ng buhay/life at kng ano2 pa.
anyways continue what you believe coz that's who u are...
if there's a god that would be our LOGIC
even ur John from the bible said it
Humans created a story that God created us. hahahah ganyan kasi isip nuon kasi wla pang science? hirap ba intindihin???
esep.esep minsan... ayaw kasi nila mg worship ng araw,water,air na nagbibigay ng buhay/life at kng ano2 pa.
anyways continue what you believe coz that's who u are...
if there's a god that would be our LOGIC
even ur John from the bible said it
Matthew 5:22kung tatanungin mo ung scientist na japanese michio kaku well renowned physicist naniniwala sya at colleagues nya. at dun sa sinabi mo napaka strawman ng argument mo wala ka nasabi na ung iron chariots na sinasabi mo ay di daw kaya ng god in bible. ito para mabasa mo ung buong kwento.
1 Now after the death of Joshua it came to pass, that the children of Israel asked the Lord, saying, Who shall go up for us against the Canaanites first, to fight against them?
2 And the Lord said, Judah shall go up: behold, I have delivered the land into his hand.
3 And Judah said unto Simeon his brother, Come up with me into my lot, that we may fight against the Canaanites; and I likewise will go with thee into thy lot. So Simeon went with him.
4 And Judah went up; and the Lord delivered the Canaanites and the Perizzites into their hand: and they slew of them in Bezek ten thousand men.
5 And they found Adonibezek in Bezek: and they fought against him, and they slew the Canaanites and the Perizzites.
6 But Adonibezek fled; and they pursued after him, and caught him, and cut off his thumbs and his great toes.
7 And Adonibezek said, Threescore and ten kings, having their thumbs and their great toes cut off, gathered their meat under my table: as I have done, so God hath requited me. And they brought him to Jerusalem, and there he died.
8 Now the children of Judah had fought against Jerusalem, and had taken it, and smitten it with the edge of the sword, and set the city on fire.
9 And afterward the children of Judah went down to fight against the Canaanites, that dwelt in the mountain, and in the south, and in the valley.
10 And Judah went against the Canaanites that dwelt in Hebron: (now the name of Hebron before was Kirjatharba
11 And from thence he went against the inhabitants of Debir: and the name of Debir before was Kirjathsepher:
12 And Caleb said, He that smiteth Kirjathsepher, and taketh it, to him will I give Achsah my daughter to wife.
13 And Othniel the son of Kenaz, Caleb's younger brother, took it: and he gave him Achsah his daughter to wife.
14 And it came to pass, when she came to him, that she moved him to ask of her father a field: and she lighted from off her ***; and Caleb said unto her, What wilt thou?
15 And she said unto him, Give me a blessing: for thou hast given me a south land; give me also springs of water. And Caleb gave her the upper springs and the nether springs.
16 And the children of the Kenite, Moses' father in law, went up out of the city of palm trees with the children of Judah into the wilderness of Judah, which lieth in the south of Arad; and they went and dwelt among the people.
17 And Judah went with Simeon his brother, and they slew the Canaanites that inhabited Zephath, and utterly destroyed it. And the name of the city was called Hormah.
18 Also Judah took Gaza with the coast thereof, and Askelon with the coast thereof, and Ekron with the coast thereof.
19 And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
20 And they gave Hebron unto Caleb, as Moses said: and he expelled thence the three sons of Anak.
21 And the children of Benjamin did not drive out the Jebusites that inhabited Jerusalem; but the Jebusites dwell with the children of Benjamin in Jerusalem unto this day.
22 And the house of Joseph, they also went up against Bethel: and the Lord was with them.
23 And the house of Joseph sent to descry Bethel. (Now the name of the city before was Luz.)
24 And the spies saw a man come forth out of the city, and they said unto him, Shew us, we pray thee, the entrance into the city, and we will shew thee mercy.
25 And when he shewed them the entrance into the city, they smote the city with the edge of the sword; but they let go the man and all his family.
26 And the man went into the land of the Hittites, and built a city, and called the name thereof Luz: which is the name thereof unto this day.
27 Neither did Manasseh drive out the inhabitants of Bethshean and her towns, nor Taanach and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Dor and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Ibleam and her towns, nor the inhabitants of Megiddo and her towns: but the Canaanites would dwell in that land.
28 And it came to pass, when Israel was strong, that they put the Canaanites to tribute, and did not utterly drive them out.
29 Neither did Ephraim drive out the Canaanites that dwelt in Gezer; but the Canaanites dwelt in Gezer among them.
30 Neither did Zebulun drive out the inhabitants of Kitron, nor the inhabitants of Nahalol; but the Canaanites dwelt among them, and became tributaries.
31 Neither did Asher drive out the inhabitants of Accho, nor the inhabitants of Zidon, nor of Ahlab, nor of Achzib, nor of Helbah, nor of Aphik, nor of Rehob:
32 But the Asherites dwelt among the Canaanites, the inhabitants of the land: for they did not drive them out.
33 Neither did Naphtali drive out the inhabitants of Bethshemesh, nor the inhabitants of Bethanath; but he dwelt among the Canaanites, the inhabitants of the land: nevertheless the inhabitants of Bethshemesh and of Bethanath became tributaries unto them.
34 And the Amorites forced the children of Dan into the mountain: for they would not suffer them to come down to the valley:
35 But the Amorites would dwell in mount Heres in Aijalon, and in Shaalbim: yet the hand of the house of Joseph prevailed, so that they became tributaries.
36 And the coast of the Amorites was from the going up to Akrabbim, from the rock, and upward.
Judges 2 King James Version (KJV)
2 And an angel of the Lord came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.
2 And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this?
3 Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you.
4 And it came to pass, when the angel of the Lord spake these words unto all the children of Israel, that the people lifted up their voice, and wept.
5 And they called the name of that place Bochim: and they sacrificed there unto the Lord.
6 And when Joshua had let the people go, the children of Israel went every man unto his inheritance to possess the land.
7 And the people served the Lord all the days of Joshua, and all the days of the elders that outlived Joshua, who had seen all the great works of the Lord, that he did for Israel.
8 And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of the Lord, died, being an hundred and ten years old.
9 And they buried him in the border of his inheritance in Timnathheres, in the mount of Ephraim, on the north side of the hill Gaash.
10 And also all that generation were gathered unto their fathers: and there arose another generation after them, which knew not the Lord, nor yet the works which he had done for Israel.
11 And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord, and served Baalim:
12 And they forsook the Lord God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the Lord to anger.
13 And they forsook the Lord, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.
14 And the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel, and he delivered them into the hands of spoilers that spoiled them, and he sold them into the hands of their enemies round about, so that they could not any longer stand before their enemies.
15 Whithersoever they went out, the hand of the Lord was against them for evil, as the Lord had said, and as the Lord had sworn unto them: and they were greatly distressed.
16 Nevertheless the Lord raised up judges, which delivered them out of the hand of those that spoiled them.
17 And yet they would not hearken unto their judges, but they went a whoring after other gods, and bowed themselves unto them: they turned quickly out of the way which their fathers walked in, obeying the commandments of the Lord; but they did not so.
18 And when the Lord raised them up judges, then the Lord was with the judge, and delivered them out of the hand of their enemies all the days of the judge: for it repented the Lord because of their groanings by reason of them that oppressed them and vexed them.
19 And it came to pass, when the judge was dead, that they returned, and corrupted themselves more than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them, and to bow down unto them; they ceased not from their own doings, nor from their stubborn way.
20 And the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel; and he said, Because that this people hath transgressed my covenant which I commanded their fathers, and have not hearkened unto my voice;
21 I also will not henceforth drive out any from before them of the nations which Joshua left when he died:
22 That through them I may prove Israel, whether they will keep the way of the Lord to walk therein, as their fathers did keep it, or not.
23 Therefore the Lord left those nations, without driving them out hastily; neither delivered he them into the hand of Joshua.
yan... magbasa ka po pagkatapos matalo ung 10k units dun sa bezek di na nila pinatay ung mga nasa top hill na may mga iron chariots dahil isipin mo ung kinalaban nila ay mismong trained na army vs mga peasant at whatnot pero na conquer parin nila ung bezek at ung israel... so ano nagawa ng iron chariots na sinasabi mo? nasaan na ung di kaya? wag ka mag cherry pick ng lines nagmumuka ka pong ignorante na feeling alam ung binabasa po.....
bilangin mo kung ilang city ung na conquer nila bago nila inatake ung sa mountain side na may iron chariots lol mga train army vs pagod na peasants.
22 But I say to you that beveryone who is angry with his brother3 will be liable ato judgment; whoever insults4 his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to cthe hell5 of fire.
Hala baka mapunta ka sa impyeimpyernuhan.
wag ganun pre. baka ikaw mpunta dun hahahahah..
nag create pa ng concept na hell para matakot at ma control ang tao.. hayy nako
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