Closed Spiritual vs religion, is christianity really a religion?pasok! (bawal trash talk)

[ph_SeekeR]

hindi po.. Christian po si bro. Eli frm Cherch of God.. Kilala sa programang Ang Dating Daan o The Old Path

religious pa rin pre.

 

[swagermove13]

Tama yung sinabi mo na you cannot be saved by your religion bat the question now is what is your religion? because even you have a strong relatioship with the God or shall we say Faith in God but you still belong in religion well im sorry to say you still cant be saved thats the truth bro..bible say that.

 

[swagermove13]

Bro anu ba religion ni Bro Eli?

I recomend you ALL to listen to BRO. ELI SORIANO ... ALL Questions of Faith have been answered by Him tru Bible.. May God GUID you All.....

 

[iokisan]

Lahat ng nag totorrent hindi maliligtas
tsaka yung gumagamit ng injector at sscap.
Pati yung gumagamit ng ***** para sa winrar.

 

[gwapolangnaman]

Need naman po ng religion, para mayroon pung association.

 

[iokisan]

pero bakit?

 

[ph_SeekeR]

Tama yung sinabi mo na you cannot be saved by your religion bat the question now is what is your religion? because even you have a strong relatioship with the God or shall we say Faith in God but you still belong in religion well im sorry to say you still cant be saved thats the truth bro..bible say that.

back read po, kung sasabihin mo yan na d ako ma,s,save kasi need ko pa religion,edi wow, mas magaling ka pa kay san pablo? ano, nakausap mo si jesus kagabi at sinabihan ka na umanib ka sa religion? lol, religious is a disgrace, religion focuses on how will they be accepted by God, Spirituals focuses on bible, and accepted by God when they have faith on Jesus nothing more nothing less, and aware of spiritual conflicts around them, if you do not understand then, what can I do, i have explained all above and on previous comments.

 

[ph_SeekeR]

Need naman po ng religion, para mayroon pung association.

need mo religion pang pasa requirements, haha, pero para ma acquire mo salvation faith mo lang ok na, religion is a disgrace.

 

[ph_SeekeR]

Tama yung sinabi mo na you cannot be saved by your religion bat the question now is what is your religion? because even you have a strong relatioship with the God or shall we say Faith in God but you still belong in religion well im sorry to say you still cant be saved thats the truth bro..bible say that.

saan po sa bible nakasulat na hindi ka ma sa.save kung wala kang religion aber?

 

[artaxerxes20]

May relihiyon man o wala d na importante yun Siguradohin mo lang na Meron kang Relasyon Kay Jesus Christ at Namumuhay ka na Balaan . kung may Church kaman kung saan ginamit ng Panginoon na iligtas ka dun, ka mamunga . Basta ang Importante Ligtas ako At Niligtas ako ng Panginoon ko na si Hesu Kristo

 

[JHIRO_04]

Bro anu ba religion ni Bro Eli?

church of God
Bro..


May relehiyon sa bible

*[[Jas 1:27]] TAB* Ang dalisay na relihion at walang dungis sa harapan ng ating Dios at Ama ay ito, dalawin ang mga ulila at mga babaing bao sa kanilang kapighatian, at pagingatang walang dungis ang kaniyang sarili sa sanglibutan.

Let us be biblical...

 

[JHIRO_04]

church of God
Bro..


May relehiyon sa bible

*[[Jas 1:27]] TAB* Ang dalisay na relihion at walang dungis sa harapan ng ating Dios at Ama ay ito, dalawin ang mga ulila at mga babaing bao sa kanilang kapighatian, at pagingatang walang dungis ang kaniyang sarili sa sanglibutan.

Let us be biblical...

May relihiyon man o wala d na importante yun Siguradohin mo lang na Meron kang Relasyon Kay Jesus Christ at Namumuhay ka na Balaan . kung may Church kaman kung saan ginamit ng Panginoon na iligtas ka dun, ka mamunga . Basta ang Importante Ligtas ako At Niligtas ako ng Panginoon ko na si Hesu Kristo

wala sa biblia na relasyun ke kristo.. Dagdag yan ng pastor ...

Kung ke Kristo ka at Christiano ka dapat sumusunod tayu sa utos ni cristo..

*[[Rom 2:13]] TAB* Sapagka't hindi ang mga tagapakinig ng kautusan ang siyang mga ganap sa harapan ng Dios, kundi ang nangagsisitalima sa kautusan ay aariing mga ganap;

 

[JHIRO_04]

need mo religion pang pasa requirements, haha, pero para ma acquire mo salvation faith mo lang ok na, religion is a disgrace.

wala sa bible na faith lang maliligtas nah..
maraming kelangan idagdag sa faith..

*[[2Pe 1:5]] KJV* And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
*[[2Pe 1:6]] KJV* And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
*[[2Pe 1:7]] KJV* And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
*[[2Pe 1:8]] KJV* For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
*[[2Pe 1:9]] KJV* But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

 

[artaxerxes20]

wala sa biblia na relasyun ke kristo.. Dagdag yan ng pastor ...

Kung ke Kristo ka at Christiano ka dapat sumusunod tayu sa utos ni cristo..

*[[Rom 2:13]] TAB* Sapagka't hindi ang mga tagapakinig ng kautusan ang siyang mga ganap sa harapan ng Dios, kundi ang nangagsisitalima sa kautusan ay aariing mga ganap;

kung sa law lang naman pag uusapan pre wag nalang d ka Diyos para ma perfecr mo yung Law Lets be Practical kaya mo bang gawin lahat ng Utos nang panginoon Lalong lalo na sa Old testament ?
at kung hindi pano ka maliligtas ?

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 14:6 ESV

"If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever,
John 14:15‭-‬16 ESV


wag mong sabihin pre na hindi yan biblical ?
wag mong sabihing sinungaling si Hesu Kristo pre ?

And he answered, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself."
Luke 10:27 ESV

 

[artaxerxes20]

wala sa biblia na relasyun ke kristo.. Dagdag yan ng pastor ...

Kung ke Kristo ka at Christiano ka dapat sumusunod tayu sa utos ni cristo..

*[[Rom 2:13]] TAB* Sapagka't hindi ang mga tagapakinig ng kautusan ang siyang mga ganap sa harapan ng Dios, kundi ang nangagsisitalima sa kautusan ay aariing mga ganap;

Pre matanong ko lang Sino ang Diyos mo at anong pangalan Niya ?

 

[swagermove13]

saan po sa bible nakasulat na hindi ka ma sa.save kung wala kang religion aber?

Mga Gawa 4:12
Wala nang ibang kaligtasan sa kanino man sapagkat walang ibang pangalan sa ilalim ng langit na ibinigay sa mga tao na ikaliligtas natin

Yan bro unawain mo mabuti walang ibang pangalan ng relihiyon na ibinigay ng diyos na ikaliligtas natin.

 

[ph_SeekeR]

Mga Gawa 4:12
Wala nang ibang kaligtasan sa kanino man sapagkat walang ibang pangalan sa ilalim ng langit na ibinigay sa mga tao na ikaliligtas natin

Yan bro unawain mo mabuti walang ibang pangalan ng relihiyon na ibinigay ng diyos na ikaliligtas natin.

lol pre, walang relihiyon dyaan, ang sinasabi nya, walang ibang pangalan ang makakapag ligtas sayo kundi si Jesus Crist, lol, wag cut ng cut ng verses, d mo maiintindihan laman ng chapter at connection ng bible, yan ang dulot ng relohiyon, they keep on bending the bible to fit to their doctrines, galing ng pastor mo. haha

 

[ph_SeekeR]

wala sa bible na faith lang maliligtas nah..
maraming kelangan idagdag sa faith..

*[[2Pe 1:5]] KJV* And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
*[[2Pe 1:6]] KJV* And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
*[[2Pe 1:7]] KJV* And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
*[[2Pe 1:8]] KJV* For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
*[[2Pe 1:9]] KJV* But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

lol, nasaan po ang nakasaad na DAPAT KANG MAY RELIHIYON PARA MA SALBA KA? wala po akong mabasa exactly, heto po paki basa ayon kay san Pablo.
1Corintians 15:1-4

15 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,


yan tol explain ko pa?
paulitulit na po kasi ako eh, nakita mong na highlight ko po yang may STAND na phrase, kase po kailangan mong panindigan yang Gospel na yan, wag mong baliwalain,
2nd na na highlight ko is yung exact Gospel na makakasave sayo, WALANG RELIHIYON NA NAKASULAT HA?,
3rd is yung fist importance, yan sana binasa ng pastor mo,
then lastly Christ died for our sins, bayad na lahat ng kasalanan mo, faith na lang hinihingi nya salba ka na. hate Nya rin yung religious, religion made by man is A disgrace, binubulag ka ng mga lecturer mo na pilit ginagawan ng bagong istorya ang bibliya.

kita mo yung naka highlight na yellow? explain ko, interms of acquiring salvation, faith lang kelangan, pag naintindihan mo na pagiging Christian at kilala at may Faith ka talaga sa Dios mo, gagawa ka ng Christain deeds, because Good Works comes after faith, heto intindihin mo.

Daniel11:32

32 With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.

that is resisting Satan and its temptations or bad works, but if you really have faith Good works will always follow.

tandaan:
Faith=salvation=grace(spiritual christians)
faith+religious beliefs=disgrace(religion)
see?
kung di mo parin maintindihan ang formula ko, basahin mo ulit sa taas ang gospel ni Paul,
faith lang kay Jesus save kana.

mahirap yan maaccept kase tuluyan ka ng nilason ng relihiyon mo, try to open your mind,ears,eyes. makikita mong nakakadiri relihiyon mo.

 

[ph_SeekeR]

May relihiyon man o wala d na importante yun Siguradohin mo lang na Meron kang Relasyon Kay Jesus Christ at Namumuhay ka na Balaan . kung may Church kaman kung saan ginamit ng Panginoon na iligtas ka dun, ka mamunga . Basta ang Importante Ligtas ako At Niligtas ako ng Panginoon ko na si Hesu Kristo

bossing, na discuss ko na po yan sa previous comments, tanong ko, sino founder ng Church of god? paki google, mababasa mo dun na Tao parin ang nag establish nyan, kase nga religious po yan. sa verse na yan na discuss ko na po yan previous comments, please po, parang awa mo na, hanapin mo po yun please? paki basa ng explanation, and paki sabi sa lecturer mo po na iwasan po ang pag cut ng verses kung d po naiintindihan yung chapter, may INC kasi dito na nag post at nag cut ng verse di nya po binasa yung kasunod tuloy napahiya.

 

[swagermove13]

lol pre, walang relihiyon dyaan, ang sinasabi nya, walang ibang pangalan ang makakapag ligtas sayo kundi si Jesus Crist, lol, wag cut ng cut ng verses, d mo maiintindihan laman ng chapter at connection ng bible, yan ang dulot ng relohiyon, they keep on bending the bible to fit to their doctrines, galing ng pastor mo. haha

Pre wala ka palang logic..hirap mong pa intindihin.