Origins: The Doctrine of The Creation (Genesis 1:1)

[reformedbonhidalgo]

the unknown is clearly defined boss: the origin of the universe, i don't have a book to defend as well, unlike you na merong book to defend: bible

bakit anung problema sa PHC as a debate platform boss? haha

Or maybe you're too afraid? hahaha

 

[plhbg1]

Or maybe you're too afraid? hahaha

pwede rin afraid ako hehe so what now? after ko maging afraid anu na? hehe

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

It's the same, if you can't define your unknown, you can't even defend the analogy of the book.


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Your position whatever it is..

So far, PHCorner is one of the best platform to put your ideas forward, simply because of the fact that you are immune from public judgement and harassment. Truth can be discussed without repercussions.

To think that it helps your case to bring your debate to facebook because you're "brave", does not help your case. It does not make your claims true. It only makes you a proud zealot trying to bully freethinkers in public.

...Such love from Christains...

 

[jayendecastro]

OK Bon, sorry I didn't know.
FYI, "lods" is just another form of "lodi", reverse of idol. It is not disrespectful at all and is in very common use. I didn't presume to be on a first name basis with you since this is mostly an anonymous forum.

Hahahaha yan.. wag kasi ganun Orange.

 

[OrangeMoon]

Hahahaha yan.. wag kasi ganun Orange.

Baka bago lang si Bon dito lods, kaya di pa sya natawag na lods dati haha

How do you explain "The Happen Naturally?"

Can something exist from nothing?

If I give you a book can you say that it just happen to be there without someone is making it?

Can you trace back everything where it came from?
Can you make your defense in 2000 words article stating that everything came from just a random without someone making them. They just happen "naturally."

You've got a big problem here, Bon.
OK, so God exists right? Who made God then?
God exists, so someone/something must have made him/her right?
God cannot just pop out from nowhere, according to your line of reasoning.

They are deceived. Muslims, and other religions are deceived. I know it's hard to swallow but that's the truth. All religions that are based on "works salvation" are deceived, period.

Again with this. This can be applicable to Christians as well from a Muslim's or Hindu's point of view.

Look at this, if I just replace some words in your statement:
Christians are deceived. Christians, and other religions are deceived. I know it's hard to swallow but that's the truth. All religions that are based on "works salvation" are deceived, period.

Bon, we'll go in circles with these kinds of statements. I would prefer if you could come up with solid and irrefutable proof that Christianity is the one and true religion as you believe, not just general statements.

 

[jayendecastro]

Baka bago lang si Bon dito lods, kaya di pa sya natawag na lods dati haha




You've got a big problem here, Bon.
OK, so God exists right? Who made God then?
God exists, so someone/something must have made him/her right?
God cannot just pop out from nowhere, according to your line of reasoning.


Again with this. This can be applicable to Christians as well from a Muslim's or Hindu's point of view.

Look at this, if I just replace some words in your statement:
Christians are deceived. Christians, and other religions are deceived. I know it's hard to swallow but that's the truth. All religions that are based on "works salvation" are deceived, period.

Bon, we'll go in circles with these kinds of statements. I would prefer if you could come up with solid and irrefutable proof that Christianity is the one and true religion as you believe, not just general statements.

Nageenjoy pa ko basahin mga posts ni Boaner…

I mean boanerges…este Bon pala….

Sir Bon..ako pala real name gamit ko.. di ako coward kagaya nila.. wahahaha

“well its you…and me..and all of the people with nothing to do….”

So far, PHCorner is one of the best platform to put your ideas forward, simply because of the fact that you are immune from public judgement and harassment. Truth can be discussed without repercussions.

To think that it helps your case to bring your debate to facebook because you're "brave", does not help your case. It does not make your claims true. It only makes you a proud zealot trying to bully freethinkers in public.

...Such love from Christains...

Agree Ero..EroKai?? langya ano ba kasi mga names nyo?? Hahahaha

 

[Asherah Goddess]

They are deceived. Muslims, and other religions are deceived. I know it's hard to swallow but that's the truth. All religions that are based on "works salvation" are deceived, period.​

Hahaha Oh my gosh. All religions are deceived. Lahat? Literal as in lahat ay deceived pagkatapos inyo lang ang tama? According to socio-anthropologist ay meron tayo more than 3,000 thousand religion pagkatapos ang mga abrahamic beliefs ay meron pa iyan denomination like Christian denomination , Islam at Judaism ay ganoon din. Dahil sa sinabi mo , kayo lang ang maliligtas at totoo? Ganun? Trillion ka-tao globally and imagine , kapag namatay silang lahat pagkatapos yung katulad niyo lang beliefs ang maliligtas and so mga... ilan percent iyon? Sobrang kunti.
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[reformedbonhidalgo]

Hahaha Oh my gosh. All religions are deceived. Lahat? Literal as in lahat ay deceived pagkatapos inyo lang ang tama? According to socio-anthropologist ay meron tayo more than 3,000 thousand religion pagkatapos ang mga abrahamic beliefs ay meron pa iyan denomination like Christian denomination , Islam at Judaism ay ganoon din. Dahil sa sinabi mo , kayo lang ang maliligtas at totoo? Ganun? Trillion ka-tao globally and imagine , kapag namatay silang lahat pagkatapos yung katulad niyo lang beliefs ang maliligtas and so mga... ilan percent iyon? Sobrang kunti.
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Jesus is the Only WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER, EXCEPT THROUGH HIM.

John 14:6

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Jesus is the Only WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER, EXCEPT THROUGH HIM.

John 14:6

Just like any cult would say.

Linawin ko lng ha.. i did not say Christianity is a cult..

But cults claim exclusivity.. so how can we tell the difference?

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[OrangeMoon]

Sir Bon..ako pala real name gamit ko.. di ako coward kagaya nila.. wahahaha

Aaraguy hahaha

Agree Ero..EroKai?? langya ano ba kasi mga names nyo?? Hahahaha

Secret hahaha

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Jesus is the Only WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER, EXCEPT THROUGH HIM.

John 14:6​

Ganyan ang "literal interpretation" niyo na ang beliefs niyo lang ang tama. Okay.

Alam mo ba? Meron pang higit diyan sa "interpretation" na iyan?

Ganito po iyon. Nagpapako si Jesus Christ dahil sa "unconditional love" nito para sa mga tao , kung kaya , nag self-sacrifice po siya sa pamamagitan ng pagpapako sa "kruss".

Iyan ang ibig sabihin ng "Jesus is the only way , the truth and the life , no one comes to the father , except through him." - Ang tanging only way , ang tanging truth at ang tanging life ay ang katagang "unconditional love" na dapat gayahin ng mga tao sa buong mundo. Kailangan "love each other" kahit magkakaiba tayo lahat ng paniniwala. Iyan daw dapat masunod ng mga tao on earth.

In a real world po kase ay it is either rare or majority ay walang tao na gumagawa na katulad na ginawa ni "Jesus Christ" po. Why? Matataas na po kase ang mga egoistic ng mga tao on earth.

Diyan na po nagsusulputan noon unang panahon na itinatawag natin na religious war and kahit sa present moment ay maraming war na rin ang dumaan. "Love" is the answer kaya nga "love" can move mountain po e. It is the "unconditional love" po ang sagot.

Si Jesus Christ ay na saved niya po ang buong tao sa Israel sa pamamagitan ng "love". Kaya nga ang dami sumunod sa kanya dahil noon unang panahon , yung mga Roman ay politically , gusto na ng lumaya ang mga tao sa kamay ng mga Romano. Its like parang suppressed po sila.

Parang katulad ng atin. Si Jose Rizal. Si Jose Rizal ang nagpalaya sa mga filipino indirectly sa pamamagitan ng libro na ginawa nito laban sa mga kastila. Naghimagsik sila Andres Bonifacio dahil sa libro ni Jose Rizal para lamang mapalaya tayo sa kamay ng mga espanyol. Ganun po.​

 

[Jesternaag]

Pati ba naman dito palaaway pa rin ang mga reform

 

[reformedbonhidalgo]

Pati ba naman dito palaaway pa rin ang mga reform

Hala uy.. wala mang gud ko mangaway!

 

[Amilgaol]

Gen. 1:1 - John 1:1

 

[plhbg1]

Pati ba naman dito palaaway pa rin ang mga reform

di iyan sila nang-a-away boss kasi tinutupad lang yan nila yung nakasulat sa aklat about being not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth

kaya bold na bold iyan sila in going around pointing out the way the truth and the life hehe

if you get to be wondering about the salvation thing eto explanation:

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Jesus is the Only WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER, EXCEPT THROUGH HIM.

John 14:6

Ganyan ang "literal interpretation" niyo na ang beliefs niyo lang ang tama. Okay.

Alam mo ba? Meron pang higit diyan sa "interpretation" na iyan?

Ganito po iyon. Nagpapako si Jesus Christ dahil sa "unconditional love" nito para sa mga tao , kung kaya , nag self-sacrifice po siya sa pamamagitan ng pagpapako sa "kruss".

Iyan ang ibig sabihin ng "Jesus is the only way , the truth and the life , no one comes to the father , except through him." - Ang tanging only way , ang tanging truth at ang tanging life ay ang katagang "unconditional love" na dapat gayahin ng mga tao sa buong mundo. Kailangan "love each other" kahit magkakaiba tayo lahat ng paniniwala. Iyan daw dapat masunod ng mga tao on earth.

In a real world po kase ay it is either rare or majority ay walang tao na gumagawa na katulad na ginawa ni "Jesus Christ" po. Why? Matataas na po kase ang mga egoistic ng mga tao on earth.

Diyan na po nagsusulputan noon unang panahon na itinatawag natin na religious war and kahit sa present moment ay maraming war na rin ang dumaan. "Love" is the answer kaya nga "love" can move mountain po e. It is the "unconditional love" po ang sagot.

Si Jesus Christ ay na saved niya po ang buong tao sa Israel sa pamamagitan ng "love". Kaya nga ang dami sumunod sa kanya dahil noon unang panahon , yung mga Roman ay politically , gusto na ng lumaya ang mga tao sa kamay ng mga Romano. Its like parang suppressed po sila.

Parang katulad ng atin. Si Jose Rizal. Si Jose Rizal ang nagpalaya sa mga filipino indirectly sa pamamagitan ng libro na ginawa nito laban sa mga kastila. Naghimagsik sila Andres Bonifacio dahil sa libro ni Jose Rizal para lamang mapalaya tayo sa kamay ng mga espanyol. Ganun po.​

Pano yan, Bin not lods? Mukhang mas mas tama at mas nuanced pa yata ang interpretation niya sayo?

Parang ang sinasabi mo kasi, ang kahulugan ng John 14:6 para sayo "tama ako at mali yung iba.. ."

Ang pagiging reformed ba ay para palakasin ang pagiging self-absorbed ng isang tao?

 

[Jesternaag]

di iyan sila nang-a-away boss kasi tinutupad lang yan nila yung nakasulat sa aklat about being not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth

kaya bold na bold iyan sila in going around pointing out the way the truth and the life hehe

if you get to be wondering about the salvation thing eto explanation:
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Tigilan na po natin ang pagiging hypocrite. Magpakatotoo tayo. Sa tingin nyo ba, mas maraming makakaintindi sa mga the way nyo pong mag share dito sa platform na to?

Ano ang kanyang main purpose sa tingin mo? Win the debate or to win souls? Magpakitang gilas dahil may alam sa Bible?

"Debate or sharing in this kind of platform is not like Jesus knocking at the door of the hearts of people. It is like forcing yourselves, you beliefs, NOT JESUS but you guys and you knowledge."

C'mon. Magpakatotoo po tayo. I'll pray for you po. Specially sa ating kaibigan na reformed movement. Medyo yumayabang kasi sila because of the belief na vegetarianism can saved people.

 

[plhbg1]

Tigilan na po natin ang pagiging hypocrite. Magpakatotoo tayo. Sa tingin nyo ba, mas maraming makakaintindi sa mga the way nyo pong mag share dito sa platform na to?

Ano ang kanyang main purpose sa tingin mo? Win the debate or to win souls? Magpakitang gilas dahil may alam sa Bible?

"Debate or sharing in this kind of platform is not like Jesus knocking at the door of the hearts of people. It is like forcing yourselves, you beliefs, NOT JESUS but you guys and you knowledge."

C'mon. Magpakatotoo po tayo. I'll pray for you po. Specially sa ating kaibigan na reformed movement. Medyo yumayabang kasi sila because of the belief na vegetarianism can saved people.

i'm not here to preach something boss, i'm not here to make people understand something like most religious persons do, i'm here only to argue, i don't know why are you feeling forced by myself hehe all i know is it's impossible to force anything here except for the rules of this site hehe

mag share ka naman about your takes boss para ma-compare natin yung sayo dun sa reformed na friend natin hehe