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kung gusto nyo makita lahat ng kasamaan ng tao nood lang kayo sa bestgore ung chainsaw ung ulo at ung leeg unti unting pinuputol at tumatawa pa ung killer at yung mga riot riot na patayan at etc. para reality check pa minsan minsan.

Batas ng kaisipan ng tao yan brad yan aral ng mga arabo, kasi sa kanila kapag kaaway ay pinapapatay, hindi kagaya sa bagong tipan an kahit kaaway ay pinapaibig pa sa iyo ng Dios

Ang lumang tipan brad ay para lamang sa mga israelita hindi para sa mga gentil ( tayo mga gentil ) binago na kasi ang kasulatan

naka sulat nga sa koran nga na patayin lahat nung di kasapi sa islam.

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SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.


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Pansin ko nga kahit sa mga môviês yang kay jesus at sa mga jew. Bakit daw ba erehi si paul para sa kanila paps?
Sensya na ha na amaze lang ako sa kaalaman mo't gusto ko rin malaman
Ok lang. Interesting naman talga bible. Super. Parang soap opera mga kwento. Mostly mga kapalpakan ng mga characters (kahit solid believers) at consequences nito.

Dati kasing pharisee yan si Paul. (Refer to Galatians 1:11-17; his letters also appears in Timothy, Acts, Corinthians, Ephesians atbp. ) Laking templo. Alam niya ins and out sa Laws ng Judaism. Tapos against siya kay Jesus at first, like so many. Ang thinking kasi ng mga Jews lalo na mga pharisees (ito tong mga pari kumbaga na bihasa sa laws like old testament) eh sino tong taong to na biglang sulpot at nagki-claim na son of God siya. Tapos biglang nagpakita sa kanya si Christ. After na to ng resurrection. Doon siya nagstart maging believer. Isa siya sa mga diciples na nagpunta sa ibang lugar para ispread ang gospel (known as the GREAT COMMISSION), para i-extend ang salvation to the Gentiles (non-jews). Most if not all diciples na nagspread ng gospel sa ibang lugar ay either napatay or pinahirapan ng todo. Original martyrs. Imagine bakit ka pupunta sa territories na pagan-worshippers (see map image below), magpapakamatay ka ba? Kung walang basis yung faith nila... If hindi totoong God si Jesus... edi mga baliw lang? Ganon? Hahaha.
Paul was responsible for why Christianity spread all over the world. Of course with other diciples. Pero siya talaga main. Magaling kasi to magsalita si Paul. Matalino din.

hindi rin po ako super maalam sa bible, pero nahilig ako magresearch at mag aral like bible concordance, yung original hebrew and greek comparisons para sa lost in translation na passages, exegetical guide, mga cultural setting nung time sa bible etc. At shempre mga write ups ng mga scholars like Michael Heiser, Perry Stone etc. Apologetics like Josh Peck, David Wood, Steven Bancarz, Rachel Stephens (check out YøùTùbé channel Crac k YourBible, it will blew you away) etc.

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Jesus came to fulfill the Law, not abolish it (Matthew 5:17-20). Meaning yung mga prophecy sa Old Testament or mga passages alluding to His coming, you'll see fulfillment in the New Testament. Ganon kasi sa Old testament parang dual. May foreshadowing na ganap. Like yung sa Garden of Eden sa Genesis. Yung verse na may "the seed woman vs serpent" (which we all know sa New Testament si Jesus Christ yung seed vs Satan) also pointed towards revelation (vs anti-Christ naman).

Old Testament or OLD COVENANT. If matatandaan niyo yung parang pact ni Abraham at God. Yung sabi sa kanya si Abraham mag inherit ng Land of Israel, Abraham being the father of a great nation, God's choosen people. Tapos yung 10 commandments ni Moses, serving as restraints para di tayo mafall further into sin. Then yung tabernacle (parang temple sa desyerto) na kailangan mag offer ng lamb (every year) sa altar as atonement sa sins etc.

NEW TESTAMENT or NEW COVENANT. Fulfilled through Christ. Once and for all, he became the sacrificial lamb to atone the sins of humanity. That through Him, having faith in Him, we can have God's forgiveness. We can have eternal life (meaning as oppose to spiritual death, being apart from God, aka hell-bound; lols not immortality). Also he extended the promise of God to Abraham to the Gentiles (so we are Abraham's children too through faith Christ, so damay tayo sa original Covenant)

why such sacrifices are required? because God is good all the time. God is a just God. God is love. So any sin is punishable, must have consequences kasi opposed to sa nature niya eh --ang sin. Maseseparate ka talaga sa Kanya. Tubig at langis lang. Di naman pwede forget na lang lahat. Happy happy after suwayin siya (example: Garden of Eden) Favoristism? Just God nga si God.

why must it be Jesus Christ to be sacrifced? he must become human in order to represent humanity, BUT since he is also God, he is blameless and sinless. Thus, he was the perfect representative to take on the sacrifice for our sins.

On why blood is demanded as atonement of sins? Mahabang discussion. Pero nasa Leviticus yung simple answer in Leviticus 17:11


Suggested further reading: The Power of the Blood Covenant: Uncover the Secret Strength of God's Eternal Oath
Also check YøùTùbé channel ni Rachel Stephens na C r a c k Y o u r B i b l e (no space) , kakaloka yung take nya sa bible, as in.
 
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mga b.o.b.o pwedi namang maniniwala ka sa dios na walang relihiyon..lang kwenta yang relihiyon mga negusyanti ang nag tayo nyan
 
I do think if there's no religion then there will be LESSER crimes...like crimes in connection with absurd beliefs through religions.
 
Noon wala pang religion , nagkakasala na ang tao
Dahilan upang mag tatag ang Dios ng religion para supilin at turuan ang tao dahil sa kanilang mga maling gawain

Ganun lang kasimple
 
kung gusto nyo makita lahat ng kasamaan ng tao nood lang kayo sa bestgore ung chainsaw ung ulo at ung leeg unti unting pinuputol at tumatawa pa ung killer at yung mga riot riot na patayan at etc. para reality check pa minsan minsan.



naka sulat nga sa koran nga na patayin lahat nung di kasapi sa islam.

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We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.


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una paps sa talata sinabi mo ay walang sinabi papatayin, casting terror and killing iay dalawang magkaiba bagay


at pag sinabi mo kasapi sa Islam ang pagkaka unawa mo sa Islam ay organized religion

ang islam na sinasa mo o ang islam na nakikita mo ngayon ay hindi ang islam na pinalaganap ni propeta Muhammad noon, islam of Quran is not a organized religion or priests. mullah, mosque and non sense rituals

mag sight tayo ng mag example

ang islam ngayon na kilala mo sa salang pangangalunya ang stone to death,
iyan ay wala sa Quran, the punishment for adultery is 100 lashes

The adulteress and the adulterer you shall whip each of them a hundred lashes. Do notbe swayed by pity from dispensing this punishment in accordance withGod's deen, if you trulybelieve in God and your accountability to Him. And let a group of believers witness their penalty -Quran 2:42

ang islam na kilala mo ay nag paparusa ng amputation of finger/ pagputol sa kamay sa kasong pagnanakaw
ang Quran ay naisulat sa wikang arabic kaya madalas ntatawa ako kung papano iinterpret ng mga hindi nman tunay na nag aral at bumabasa nito ang nkasulat sa Quran, a arabic world can convey many meaning
basahin natin ang talata


“As for the male thief and the female thief, cut off (Arabic: fa-iqta'u) their hands (as) a recompense for what they have earned: a punishment by way of example (Arabic: Nakalan) from God and God is Exalted in power” -Quran 5:38

now if you consult arabic-english lexicon ang meaning ng fa-iqta'u it doesnt neccssary mean to cut the hands of the finger

fa-iqta'u = to cut/sever/disunite/separate/detach, to disable in prosecuting, unable to proceed in, withdrew, break down, perish/cease/finish/fail, cut short / stop, intercepted/interrupted, put an end/stop to.



now to make this clear ay sinangguni ko ito dati pa sa mga expert sa Arabic, dahil nagugulimihanan din ako sa verse na ito which in my opinion is very severe punishment, so i consulted Paigham Mustafah for his opinion, a facebook friend and mentor which i meet in fb groups and in Quran Centric online forum, he is a Quran translator and expert in arabicat ito ang sabi nya:


In traditional translations the 5:38 verse usually reads 'cut off their hands'. However, this is an idiom, and idioms we know have figurative meanings that are different from the literal meanings.Just as we might say in English, 'His hands are tied' but do not mean that the person has been bound by a rope, but that he is restricted in what he can do. Similarly, in this verse 'cut their hands' does not mean to sever, it means to restrict their ability to commit further crimes, that is to 'cut offtheir resources', for committing theft. The next verse 5:39 speaks about repentance, living a useful life after repenting may be difficult without one or both hands. Those who lapse into criminal activity should be assisted in returning to a good and useful life. The principle that underpins the Quranic Justices System is that it allows everyone and anyone capable of reforming and having reformed a second chance.

The Resurrection/Second Coming of the Messiah; bagay na hindi ko nabasa sa Quran at walang direct reference sa Quran, ang traditional na sunni at Shia ay naniniwala dito, isa ito sa direct plagiarism nila sa bibliya by importing this belief on their own Hadith, na dinagdagan nila ng second coming of the anti christ (dajjal) na hindi mo mababasa sa loob ng Quran, though i have solid proof in the Quran not to believe this second coming non sense, i still asked the same man just last last week, since papalapit na noon ang holy week, and we both came in the same opinion. for privacy reason ay ni censored ko ang fb name ko.

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ang sinsabi mo papatayin lahat ng kasapi sa islam ay walang solid proof sa Quran until you do not fully understand what is Deen Islam in a deeper meaning at pinaliwanag ko na dito kung ano ang Deen Islam i back read mo na lang

ang translation na Sahih International ay translation ng 3 converts (balik islam) they are not expert, they have no formal study of Arabic language

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.


clearly ang isa sa tinutukoy dito ay mga religious leaders lalo na kung titignan natin sa ibang salin a translation that let the Quran speak for himself without tainted interpretation from the hadith


We will throw terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved in this guidance because they set up besides God powerless authorities to rival Him. Their endis a hell of their own making; what a miserable life for those who go beyond the limits

the Quran denounced any religious authority of priesthood, and religious authority the verse 3:151 is a denounciation on those people who set up partner besides God, and the religious leaders are among on those category.

Ang islam ay hindi isang relihiyon na maari mo sapian with membership mo and you will say "la ilahah illah Allah muhammad rasul Allah (There is no God but, Allah, and Muhammad is the prophet of Allah)" iyan ang isang requirement ng traditional and corrupted islam upang maging myembro ka ,the Shadadah

iyan ay wala sa Quran,submission (islam) to the will of one God, and his just economic sytem (deen/shariah) makes a man muslim, following traditional and corrupted traditional teaching of Sunnis and Shia and stating their man made shadada doesnt make you a Muslim, a muslim is the one who submit to the will and authority of God, not to the will and authority of religious leaders.


UPHOLD GOD'S SYSTEM-NOT RELIGIONS

They have set up their leaders and priests as authorities to rank with God. Others deified the messiah, son of Mary. They were all commanded to serve only the One God. There is no authority to rank with Him. Be He glorified, high above having any authority to equal Him. -Quran 9:31


mali ang unawa mo sa islam ang malalim na kahulugan nito at kung ano talaga ito, the islam you know is the corrupted version of islam of sunnis and shias from God's Deen which they the Arabs hijacked 200 years after the death of prophet muhammad.

maraming misconception kung ano ba talaga ang islam
for further study at para maunawan mo kung ano talaga ang tunay na islam base sa Quran just visit and read the website of brother Paigham Mustafa and Sam Gerrans

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It actually depends on what specific crime you're referring to. For example taxes, most churches don't pay no taxes and I'm no expert but I view this as a crime.
 
off topic:.....just live your life to the fullest.....nasa tao yan kung maniniwala ka sa dyos or not.....basta wag kalang gagawa ng masama sa kapwa...wag ka mainggit at wag ka magyabang kung anong meron ka ngaun...at dapat may respeto ka at marunong ka magpakumbaba.....ang dami kasing mga tanong na di natin alam at mga sagot..
 
Nasatao nlng paggawa ng crimen maliban nlng sa ibang islam na pumapatay para sa kaluwalhatian ng diyos nila kung Mauunawaan lng ng iba hindi nais ng Diyos na gumawa tayo ng masama sa iba ang pagpatay magnakaw mangalunya mangrape mag droga mag sugal at lahat na masasamang gawain ay hindi inutos sa atin ng Diyos maging sa sektang ating kinaaaniban maliban sa iba na hindi ipinapangaral ang salita ng Diyos
 
sang ayon ka sa religion pero di ka naniniwalang may Diyos? ano ito di ko magets?
It means na Hindi siya naniniwala na may panginoon per sang ayon sya na naniniwala Ang ibang to sa panginoon, di sya tutol na naniniwala Ang iba say panginoon dahil may moral values namn Yun.
 
ang masasabi ko lang karamihan ng religion dito sa mundo ay mali, pero sure na sure ako may nag iisang religion na tama, isa lang yun..

at yung nagsasabing hindi siya naniniwala na may Dios ,yun yung taong pinakabobo sa lahat .. walang katumbas na salita na pinakabobo, !
 
Para na ring ibig sabihin Nyan, Kung walang religion, Wala ring diyos, at Kung walang mga diyos na pinanampalatayanan ang mga tao, walang krimen sa sangkatauhan?


Sa aking pananaw maaring mawala lahat ng 'established' religion sa daigdig na ito, ang krimen ay mananatili hanggat may umiiral na mga batas pantao, kung walang governing law sa sandaigdigan pano mo masasabing krimen ang isang Gawain tulad ng simpleng cyber crime.

So in a way mas may sense din bang itanong sa thread na to na kung walang mga batas at alituntunin na umiiral, wala ring masasabing may paglabag o krimen na iiral?

False dichotomy at its finest!
 
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