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[Helgafjell Crematoria]

ito naman po yung version ko at version din ng. mga online koran about 5:72

5:72 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers.

compare mo sayo, napakalayo ng verwion mo

alam mo kung bakit?

pag bibigyan kita pero last na to after ko sagutin ay sagutin mo na yung tanong ko sayo


dahil ang translation nyan ay kinuha mo pinulot mo sa sunni website,


those translation is sunni hadith base translation hanapin mo na lang sa google kung ano ang hadith na sinsabi ko at mahabang paliwanagan pa yan

most of the time hadith base translation is full parenthesis, out of place kadalasan, sa original arabic ay walang parenthesis yan ay opinyon kadalasan ng translator. they do not let the Quran speak for itself

the one im using is the straight forward, direct rendition of english to arabic without parenthesis

pag hadith base ang translation ay naiiba bibigyan kita ng example sa ang zakah sa english ay purities pero sa hadith translation it means alms giving lalagyan nila yan parenthesis like this "give zakah (obligatory alms giving)"

naunawaan mo na? kung hindi pa research ka lang what is the difference between quran alone islam and sectarian/traditionalist islam


oh ngayon siguro naman pwedi mo na sagutin yung tanong ko


all christian will go to hell

pakilatag ang verse pag wala ka makita sa google aminin mo wala

verse lang hinihingi ko, pag wala ay aminin mo lang at ng maipaliwanag ko sayo kung bakit wala

 

[no0bw1z4rd]

alam mo kung bakit?

pag bibigyan kita pero last na to after ko sagutin ay sagutin mo na yung tanong ko sayo


dahil ang translation nyan ay kinuha mo pinulot mo sa sunni website,


those translation is sunni hadith base translation hanapin mo na lang sa google kung ano ang hadith na sinsabi ko at mahabang paliwanagan pa yan

most of the time hadith base translation is full parenthesis, out of place kadalasan, sa original arabic ay walang parenthesis yan ay opinyon kadalasan ng translator. they do not let the Quran speak for itself

the one im using is the straight forward, direct rendition of english to arabic without parenthesis

pag hadith base ang translation ay naiiba bibigyan kita ng example sa ang zakah sa english ay purities pero sa hadith translation it means alms giving lalagyan nila yan parenthesis like this "give zakah (obligatory alms giving)"

naunawaan mo na? kung hindi pa research ka lang what is the difference between quran alone islam and sectarian/traditionalist islam


oh ngayon siguro naman pwedi mo na sagutin yung tanong ko


all christian will go to hell

pakilatag ang verse pag wala ka makita sa google aminin mo wala

verse lang hinihingi ko, pag wala ay aminin mo lang at ng maipaliwanag ko sayo kung bakit wala

so sinasabi mo mali yung napasukan kong website? na instead of allah dapat christ po yun?

 

[Helgafjell Crematoria]

check mo muna version ng 5:72 mo, dun malalaman mo

pinilit mo na naman yung sayo haha kanina ko pa sinasampal sayo to

sumagot ka ng direkta

all christian wil go to hell
saan explicite verse sa Quran sinabi sa quran yan sinsabi mo?

paki latag ang verse kung wala simple lang wala ka mababasa

 

[Helgafjell Crematoria]

so sinasabi mo mali yung napasukan kong website? na instead of allah dapat christ po yun?

hahaha ang mali ay ang unawa mo ng simpleng english napaka worthless mo sa english brad tinagalog ko na nga hindi mo pa din naunawa, wala ka na pag asa hahaha

 

[Helgafjell Crematoria]

sumagot ka na lang sa tanong dami mo pa utot at pasikot sikot


all christian will go to hell

pakilatag ang verse pag wala ka makita sa google aminin mo wala

verse lang hinihingi ko, pag wala ay aminin mo lang at ng maipaliwanag ko sayo kung bakit wala

 

[no0bw1z4rd]

sumagot ka na lang sa tanong dami mo pa utot at pasikot sikot


all christian will go to hell

pakilatag ang verse pag wala ka makita sa google aminin mo wala

verse lang hinihingi ko, pag wala ay aminin mo lang at ng maipaliwanag ko sayo kung bakit wala

paki check version ng 3:85 mo?

 

[no0bw1z4rd]

hahaha ang mali ay ang unawa mo ng simpleng english napaka worthless mo sa english brad tinagalog ko na nga hindi mo pa din naunawa, wala ka na pag asa hahaha

kaya nga korek me if im wrong dapat ba jesus yun sa 5:72 instead of allah? kasi nga sa verse na kahit saan mababasa ko nakalagay talaga is Allah the Mesiah hindi Christ the Mesiah, uu aminado ako kahit sa bible may mali talaga mga translations

 

[Yowgee]

Crime for me bakit may crime bcoz Of Money , kung walang money or price lahat peaceful ng earth

 

[no0bw1z4rd]

paki check version ng 3:85 mo?

ito version nahanap ko

3:85
Sahih International: And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.
Pickthall: And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.
Yusuf Ali: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).
Shakir: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
Muhammad Sarwar: No religion other than Islam (submission to the will of God) will be accepted from anyone. Whoever follows a religion other than Islam will be lost on the Day of Judgment.
Mohsin Khan: And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.
Arberry: Whoso desires another religion than Islam, it shall not be accepted of him; in the next world he shall be among the losers.

 

[no0bw1z4rd]

ito version nahanap ko

3:85
Sahih International: And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.
Pickthall: And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.
Yusuf Ali: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).
Shakir: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
Muhammad Sarwar: No religion other than Islam (submission to the will of God) will be accepted from anyone. Whoever follows a religion other than Islam will be lost on the Day of Judgment.
Mohsin Khan: And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.
Arberry: Whoso desires another religion than Islam, it shall not be accepted of him; in the next world he shall be among the losers.

which only means, not only christians, but also other religions, almost quarter of human population

 

[Helgafjell Crematoria]

kaya nga korek me if im wrong dapat ba jesus yun sa 5:72 instead of allah? kasi nga sa verse na kahit saan mababasa ko nakalagay talaga is Allah the Mesiah hindi Christ the Mesiah, uu aminado ako kahit sa bible may mali talaga mga translations

brad ang linaw naman nun verse pero ewan bakit d mo maunawan
yup andyan si jesus

Evil indeed are those who say that the messiah, son of Mary is God. The messiah himself said, "O Children of Israel, you shall serve God; my Sustainer and your Sustainer." Those who set up an authority to rank withGod, God has forbidden for them a harmonious future and their conclusion is an eterna hell. The wicked have no helpers.

mali unawa mo sa simpleng english may mga sekta sa islam madami sila hindi pinagkakasunduan pero sa isang bagay ay nagkaka isa sila, there is only one God, jesus is not a Son of God nor God
wala kahit isang sekta sa islam ang nagsasabing jesus is god and he is a son of god, or jesus is Allah na gaya ng gusto mo ipilit

kung binasa mo lang yun mga kasunod na verses at footnotes sa pinakaibaba andyan na din ang trinity

 

[no0bw1z4rd]

brad ang linaw naman nun verse pero ewan bakit d mo maunawan
yup andyan si jesus

Evil indeed are those who say that the messiah, son of Mary is God. The messiah himself said, "O Children of Israel, you shall serve God; my Sustainer and your Sustainer." Those who set up an authority to rank withGod, God has forbidden for them a harmonious future and their conclusion is an eterna hell. The wicked have no helpers.

mali unawa mo sa simpleng english may mga sekta sa islam madami sila hindi pinagkakasunduan pero sa isang bagay ay nagkaka isa sila, there is only one God, jesus is not a Son of God nor God
wala kahit isang sekta sa islam ang nagsasabing jesus is god and he is a son of god, or jesus is Allah na gaya ng gusto mo ipilit

kung binasa mo lang yun mga kasunod na verses at footnotes sa pinakaibaba andyan na din ang trinity

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kaya nga, di mo din na iintindihan eh, iba yung verse na nakita ko, hindi ito tungkol kay jesus, di mo rin na iintindihan no? kaya nga iba interpretasyon ko, ito yun oh...

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.

 

[no0bw1z4rd]

kaya nga, di mo din na iintindihan eh, iba yung verse na nakita ko, hindi ito tungkol kay jesus, di mo rin na iintindihan no? kaya nga iba interpretasyon ko, ito yun oh...

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.

TRANSLITERATION
la-qad kafara lladhīna qālū ʾinna llāha huwa l-masīḥu bnu maryama wa-qāla l-masīḥu yā-banī ʾisrāʾīla ʿbudū llāha rabbī wa-rabbakum ʾinnahū man yushrik bi-llāhi fa-qad ḥarrama llāhu ʿalayhi l-jannata wa-maʾwāhu n-nāru wa-mā li-ẓ-ẓālimīna min ʾanṣārin
TRANSLATION
They are certainly faithless who say, ‘Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary.’ But the Messiah had said, ‘O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Indeed whoever ascribes partners to Allah, Allah shall forbid him [entry into] paradise, and his refuge shall be the Fire, and the wrongdoers will not have any helpers.’

 

[Helgafjell Crematoria]

which only means, not only christians, but also other religions, almost quarter of human population

ka ng latag ng verse di mo naman nauunawan haha at hindi ka marunong sumagot

inulit mo na naman yung pagiging ignorant, yan ay base lamang sa iyong opinyon bunga ng pagiging ignorant mo

unless you better study the Quran hindi talaga mauunawan ng tulad mo yan the deeper meaning of deen islam
its a sytem God's economic order not a religion, to serve other God is the capital punishment in Quran

kaya nga tinatanong kita base sa maling unawa mo at kabob0han mo -- wag ka magagalit at hindi ako may sabi nyan ikaw na b0b0 ka kamo

all christian will go to hell

pakilatag ang verse pag wala ka makita sa google aminin mo wala
pero wala ka maipakita kaya kung ano man yung ignonrant interpretation mo sa Quran ay irrelevant yan lalo na at wala ka mailabas na verse sa sinasabi mo

 

[no0bw1z4rd]

ka ng latag ng verse di mo naman nauunawan haha at hindi ka marunong sumagot

inulit mo na naman yung pagiging ignorant, yan ay base lamang sa iyong opinyon bunga ng pagiging ignorant mo

unless you better study the Quran hindi talaga mauunawan ng tulad mo yan the deeper meaning of deen islam
its a sytem God's economic order not a religion, to serve other God is the capital punishment in Quran

kaya nga tinatanong kita base sa maling unawa mo at kabob0han mo -- wag ka magagalit at hindi ako may sabi nyan ikaw na b0b0 ka kamo

all christian will go to hell

pakilatag ang verse pag wala ka makita sa google aminin mo wala
pero wala ka maipakita kaya kung ano man yung ignonrant interpretation mo sa Quran ay irrelevant yan lalo na at wala ka mailabas na verse sa sinasabi mo





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scroll up mo boss, sobrang bob0 ko di ako marunong mag copy paste haha

 

[Helgafjell Crematoria]

kaya nga, di mo din na iintindihan eh, iba yung verse na nakita ko, hindi ito tungkol kay jesus, di mo rin na iintindihan no? kaya nga iba interpretasyon ko, ito yun oh...

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.

yan ka na naman sa pautot mo haha simpleng english di mo maunawa


laki ng problema mo brad mapa tagalog mapa english mahirap ka umunawa bakit ba pinipilit mo ang Allah (God) at si jesus ay iisa? haha linaw linaw nyan talata na yan inutil lang pag isisip ang makaka isip ng ganyan pagkakaunawa mo

yan ginamitan ko na lang google translate para sayo bakit pala tinawag pa ni jesus na aking panginoon kung siya din pala yung panginoon haha
pag pinilit mo pa din yung sayo bahala ka hindi naman ako magmumukhang katawa tawa kundi ikaw haha

 

[no0bw1z4rd]

review mo attachment nito boss

kahit san site ako tumingin, hindi talaga ito yung 5:72,halatang dinoktor mo lang ito hango sa sarili mong opinion, anyways, hang ako sa effort mo, ultimo koran dinoktor mo? thumbs up sayo

 

[cryptodr987]

may kriMinal paren kahit anong organisasyon kaya lang lider ng ilegal na droga nandyan sa katolisismo. kahit sa organisasyon ng akrho may ilegal na droga ren diba haha

 

[cryptodr987]

pope ng rome? lider ng ilegal na droga sabe ng kapitbahay namen haha

 

[Helgafjell Crematoria]

scroll up mo boss, sobrang bob0 ko di ako marunong mag copy paste haha

ano naman scroll up sayo wala ka naman sinasagot so hindi ka na b0bo kasi marunong ka na mag copy paste ganon ba? haha hndi naman ako nagsabi b0bo ka ikaw mismo nagsabi nyan sa sarili mo

madalang kasi ko mag copy paste pag dating sa talakayan ng relihiyon, sa fb kasi pag duon ka nakipag debate hindi pwedi yung copy paste ka at google ka, bawal dun yon masasabihan ka wala ka sariling utak at naka asa ka lang sa google kaya ako karamihan ng refference ko pag pag nakikipag talakayan ako ay mula sa book collection ko dahil di lahat ng napupulot mo sa google ay totoo u must verfy every info at pag aklat ang gamit mo+screen shot iyan ay matibay sa online debate dahil iyan ay mula sa authrity in the field, mula sa legitimate author and translator