Catholics believing in Karma

[QwynDon]

Naging response na to usually ng mga katoliko either good or bad karma daw para sa mga kapwa nila. Tama nga ba maniwala dito?

 

[gutaussehend]

"But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you"
-Luke 6:27-

 

[stellarium]

Yes, expression ng madami catholics yan yung "nakarma ka din "karma yan," but it's not part of catholic doctrine. Ang karma kasi ay belief sa hinduism and other Vedic religions, it is true that cause and effect and its moral consequences exist in Catholic teachings, but its frameworks and theological understandings and interpretations are different from Hindu's beliefs in karma and transmigrations of the soul. Karma is more complex in Hinduism; it is one of the central core teachings of the Hindu faith, while sa Catholicism, ang emphasizes ng doktrina ay ang kunsepto ng sin (original sin), salvation, and redemption through faith in Jesus. Amen?

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Karma is more complex in Hinduism;

Oo nga. Pagkakaalala ko ang karma sakanila is more of a lifetime consolidation ng works mo, which determines kung saang world ka ipapanganak ulit.Versus sa rhetorical karma na binabanggit ng non-hindu na instant karma usually.

And not because catholics use it in their speech, naniniwala na sila dito. Atheists also use the term karma, at minsan may expression na "OMG". Karma is just like a shorthand of saying bumabalik sayo ang mga gawa mo, without having any real deeper basis of belief system.

Personally I would rather have catholics use Newton's 3rd law of motion as a misnomer to describe such events. It is not a matter of fact or belief kasi. It is just for a convenient comversation.

 

[QwynDon]

Yes, expression ng madami catholics yan yung "nakarma ka din "karma yan," but it's not part of catholic doctrine. Ang karma kasi ay belief sa hinduism and other Vedic religions, it is true that cause and effect and its moral consequences exist in Catholic teachings, but its frameworks and theological understandings and interpretations are different from Hindu's beliefs in karma and transmigrations of the soul. Karma is more complex in Hinduism; it is one of the central core teachings of the Hindu faith, while sa Catholicism, ang emphasizes ng doktrina ay ang kunsepto ng sin (original sin), salvation, and redemption through faith in Jesus. Amen?

totoo, ang karma is from hinduism not sa catholocism. also it is wrong for us to wish/tell them that they will have good/bad karma after an incident as it does not work like that. pwede mangyari ang karma pero hindi na mamomonitor nung nagsasabi ito.

Oo nga. Pagkakaalala ko ang karma sakanila is more of a lifetime consolidation ng works mo, which determines kung saang world ka ipapanganak ulit.Versus sa rhetorical karma na binabanggit ng non-hindu na instant karma usually.

And not because catholics use it in their speech, naniniwala na sila dito. Atheists also use the term karma, at minsan may expression na "OMG". Karma is just like a shorthand of saying bumabalik sayo ang mga gawa mo, without having any real deeper basis of belief system.

Personally I would rather have catholics use Newton's 3rd law of motion as a misnomer to describe such events. It is not a matter of fact or belief kasi. It is just for a convenient comversation.

agree ako boss dun sa 3rd law. mas maigi pa, however they will base it sa science which is contradicting din sa kanilang beliefs.

"But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you"
-Luke 6:27-

"do good to those who like or hate you..."

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

agree ako boss dun sa 3rd law. mas maigi pa, however they will base it sa science which is contradicting din sa kanilang beliefs.

There was a time na ang catholic church don't really care about the belief portion of the doctrine. Yan nga isa sa dahilan na tumiwalag ang mga protestants who are known to be fundamentalist.

In a sense, the catholic did not literally believe sa mga claims ng Bible, and took it more metaphorically. Para sa mga protestant, requirement ang belief.

Ngayon mixed up na ang paniniwala ng mga tao dahil maraming sumikat na evangelical apologists na producto ng protestant fundamentalists.

 

[QwynDon]

There was a time na ang catholic church don't really care about the belief portion of the doctrine. Yan nga isa sa dahilan na tumiwalag ang mga protestants who are known to be fundamentalist.

In a sense, the catholic did not literally believe sa mga claims ng Bible, and took it more metaphorically. Para sa mga protestant, requirement ang belief.

Ngayon mixed up na ang paniniwala ng mga tao dahil maraming sumikat na evangelical apologists na producto ng protestant fundamentalists.

well said sir. if i may ask, ano religion nyo?

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

well said sir. if i may ask, ano religion nyo?

Catholic in practice, atheist in belief.

 

[dothackjhe]

Hiniram lang yung terminology, as far as I am aware, since ubiquitous din naman kasi ang concept ng "causality" o "cause and effect". Mas madali lang talagang gamitin siguro yung term na "karma".

 

[QwynDon]

Hiniram lang yung terminology, as far as I am aware, since ubiquitous din naman kasi ang concept ng "causality" o "cause and effect". Mas madali lang talagang gamitin siguro yung term na "karma".

on point. pero do they need to wish a good or bad karma to someone kapag may nagawa sa kanila? sorry not familiar kung ano concept ng ganito

 

[dothackjhe]

I cannot speak for the institution, but the way I see it, pag may tao na nagre-raise ng topic about karma na tila pagalit, intended yun as an indirect punishment, a repimand, or at least, as a warning. Alam mo naman ang mga tao, minsan hangga't di napaparusahan, gagawa at gagawa pa rin yan ng mali. Kaya nga tayo pinapalo o dinidisiplina mula pagkabata.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

on point. pero do they need to wish a good or bad karma to someone kapag may nagawa sa kanila? sorry not familiar kung ano concept ng ganito

Sa tunay idea ng karma, there is no need to wish for karma. Everything happens on its own. Kumbaga the universe does the accounting of the good and bad. Ung universe na bahala maningil sooner or later.

Pero syempre, hindi nmn tlga proper karma pinapaniwalaan ng marami. May halo din siya n mga iba pang superstition na similar sa act of casting curses to people who wronged you.

 

[plhbg1]

ang problema diyan boss is mismong catholicism is wrong na in the first place, at kahit tumama pa yung catholicism boss it does not mean tatama din ang karma, so the bottom line is that it is very wrong

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

ang problema diyan boss is mismong catholicism is wrong na in the first place, at kahit tumama pa yung catholicism boss it does not mean tatama din ang karma, so the bottom line is that it is very wrong

Depende kung saan angle mo titignan. Although the beliefs are not factual, my psychological utility kung saan nag-iintersect ang catholicsm and idea of karma. Most of the practices and tradition ng carholics is based on the writings of paul which is teaching stoicsm. Ganun din nmn ang karma, it allows the believer to be stoic about life in general, because they believe that they don't have to seek for justice in vain - as the universe create justice on its own.

So if properly wielded, both beliefs allows a person to be happy, despite not being too fortunate in life.

Of course, if wielded wrong, it just makes them a bitter person believing in stupid superstitions.