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Haha wala yan na lang masabi mo pero yung tanong ko na kung meron bang taong kayang magbigay ng buhay na walang hanggan? Nasan na? Magbigay ka muna ng pangalan ng tao. Wala ka naman maibigay. Puro patawa na lang mga sagot mo.
why would I answer you with that eh pabalik2 ka lang sa spiritual delusion mo haha wake up from reality!
 
Luke 12:47, kumakatawan diyan ay ang mga taong hindi sumusunod sa mga utos at kalooban ng Diyos ay papaluin ng marami. Siyempre hindi sila makakapasok sa kaharian ng Diyos. Sa kaharian ng Diablo sila babagsak at doon sila papaluin ng marami dahil ang hari doon ay malupit at masama.
obviously na gawa gawa mo na yan tingnan mo Luke 12:46 "The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers." then Luke 12:47 ""The servant who knows the master's will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows."
obvious na obvious na yung point ng verse ay hindi diablo or hindi unbelievers kundi mga slaves but but slavery is legal and morally acceptable yeah right


Mateo 10:21, lahat ng mga tagasunod ni Cristo ay pinapatay ng mga nakatataas nung mga panahon na yun. Isusumbong at ipagkakanulo ng kapatid ang kapatid na tagasunod ni Cristo sa nakatataas. Agad ipapapatay ang sinumbong na kapatid. Ipapapatay din ang iba pang miyembro ng pamilya na tagasunod ni Cristo.
“Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. “The real beauty of this verse is that Jesus demands people truly love him more then they love their own family."
Wait what anong isusumbong jan? gawa gawa na naman obvious na obvious sa verse
“Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” (Matthew 10:21)
Asan nga again ang pagsumbong jan?
ganito kasi if you love god why would he be jealous if you love your family also love with A does not mean I do not love B

Mateo 5:17, ang Sampung Utos ng Diyos ang tinutukoy ni Cristo dyan.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Nice scape goat sa pagkakaalam ko hindi lng si mosses ang prophet lol
Mateo 11:20, sinumbatan lang ang bayan at wala naman Siyang pinatay.
Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. really if you are indeed the son of God why would you denounce them you supposed to be a role model

Pahayag 19:13-15, 20-21, hindi naman nangyari yan kaya hindi mo pwedeng sabihing ginawa Niya yan.
The winepress is the actual press that humans shall be put into so that we may be ground up. di pa nga nangyari pero why would a God plan for that he supposed to be omnipotent who knows everything


Mateo 15:4-7, Marcos 7:9, ang sinumang lumait sa kanyang ama't ina ay dapat mamatay. Batas ni moises yan wala sa Sampung Utos ng Diyos.
then again look at Matthew 5:17


Mateo 19:29, kumakatawan diyan na unahing hanapin ang kaharian ng Diyos at ang Kanyang katwiran (Mateo 6:33)
first it's a contradiction
and really if that happened today it would be demmed child abuse lol abandoning children?

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Luke 12:47, kumakatawan diyan ay ang mga taong hindi sumusunod sa mga utos at kalooban ng Diyos ay papaluin ng marami. Siyempre hindi sila makakapasok sa kaharian ng Diyos. Sa kaharian ng Diablo sila babagsak at doon sila papaluin ng marami dahil ang hari doon ay malupit at masama.

Mateo 10:21
, lahat ng mga tagasunod ni Cristo ay pinapatay ng mga nakatataas nung mga panahon na yun. Isusumbong at ipagkakanulo ng kapatid ang kapatid na tagasunod ni Cristo sa nakatataas. Agad ipapapatay ang sinumbong na kapatid. Ipapapatay din ang iba pang miyembro ng pamilya na tagasunod ni Cristo.

Mateo 5:17
, ang Sampung Utos ng Diyos ang tinutukoy ni Cristo dyan.
Mateo 11:20, sinumbatan lang ang bayan at wala naman Siyang pinatay.
Pahayag 19:13-15, 20-21, hindi naman nangyari yan kaya hindi mo pwedeng sabihing ginawa Niya yan.
Mateo 15:4-7, Marcos 7:9, ang sinumang lumait sa kanyang ama't ina ay dapat mamatay. Batas ni moises yan wala sa Sampung Utos ng Diyos.
Mateo 19:29, kumakatawan diyan na unahing hanapin ang kaharian ng Diyos at ang Kanyang katwiran (Mateo 6:33)
Mateo 13:10-15, mga manhid na ang puso kaya nagsasalita Siya ng patalinghaga. Mga nagbibingi-bingihan at nagbubulag-bulagan. Ang may pandinig ay makinig (Mateo 11:15)
Marcos 4:11-12, walang sinabi si Cristo dyan na kaya Siya nagsasalita ng patalinghaga ay para mapunta sila sa impyerno. Wag mong dagdagan.
again why would he do that in the first place speaking parables if he knew that people will get confused why not say directly to the point if he wants to save us?

Marcos 4:11-12, walang sinabi si Cristo dyan na kaya Siya nagsasalita ng patalinghaga ay para mapunta sila sa impyerno. Wag mong dagdagan.
He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables.so that, "'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'"
Anong walang sinabi lol

TLDR para kalang ganito oh
P.S sa dinami dami ko ng naka debate kahit pa nga pari ikaw lng first time na encounter ko na gumagawa ng sariling version ng verse at interpretation lel.jpg
 

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obviously na gawa gawa mo na yan tingnan mo Luke 12:46 "The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers." then Luke 12:47 ""The servant who knows the master's will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows."
obvious na obvious na yung point ng verse ay hindi diablo or hindi unbelievers kundi mga slaves but but slavery is legal and morally acceptable yeah right



“Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth! No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. “The real beauty of this verse is that Jesus demands people truly love him more then they love their own family."
Wait what anong isusumbong jan? gawa gawa na naman obvious na obvious sa verse
“Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” (Matthew 10:21)
Asan nga again ang pagsumbong jan?
ganito kasi if you love god why would he be jealous if you love your family also love with A does not mean I do not love B


"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Nice scape goat sa pagkakaalam ko hindi lng si mosses ang prophet lol

Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. really if you are indeed the son of God why would you denounce them you supposed to be a role model


The winepress is the actual press that humans shall be put into so that we may be ground up. di pa nga nangyari pero why would a God plan for that he supposed to be omnipotent who knows everything



then again look at Matthew 5:17



first it's a contradiction
and really if that happened today it would be demmed child abuse lol abandoning children?


again why would he do that in the first place speaking parables if he knew that people will get confused why not say directly to the point if he wants to save us?


He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables.so that, "'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'"
Anong walang sinabi lol

TLDR para kalang ganito oh
P.S sa dinami dami ko ng naka debate kahit pa nga pari ikaw lng first time na encounter ko na gumagawa ng sariling version ng verse at interpretation View attachment 310581
answer ulet niya dyan malamang wag maniniwala sa mga sinasabi ng propeta kundi kay Kristo Jesus...hindi pumapatay ang Diyos kundi bumubuhay.
hahaha pabalik-balik
 
answer ulet niya dyan malamang wag maniniwala sa mga sinasabi ng propeta kundi kay Kristo Jesus...hindi pumapatay ang Diyos kundi bumubuhay.
hahaha pabalik-balik
uo nga laugh trip na nga ako dito eh napaka desperate sa pag whitewash :D
 
m9soymax madali naman makilala.kung alin eh..
1. Sa Pangalan palang ng Iglesia.. Pag wla sa Biblia hindi na tunay un.
2. Yung aral. Pag salungat aral ng Diyos sa Biblia itinataguyod nila hindi din tunay yan.
3. May patotoo dpat ng hula.
4. May sugo
It doesn't mean a name of a church is mentioned in the bible that it means that's the real religion lol
sure ako na kahit walang isang kahit ni isang branch ng christianity ang sumunod sa lahat ng utos sa bible
pretty sure na sa inyong mga lifetime kumain kayo ng sea shells na bawal bawal yun sa bible lol
patotoo ng hula ? so far nag fail lahat ng hula ng christianity what else is new?
May sugo? Every religion has one don't worry they are all wrong right?
 
pag sinabi ngang "bible" eh sobrang holy na ng word sa kanila when in the first place wala kang mababasang word na bible kahit saan dyan haha
 
m9soymax Sabi ko nga isa lang na bayatan ang pangalan.. Sdahil kung aa pangalan palang eh wala na sa biblia edi lalong hindi totoo.. Halimbawa. Catholic eh wla ka namang mababasang catholic sa biblia ni hindi binangit ni Cristo yan. Meron relihiyon ang nkakasunod sa Biblia kaya ito ang tunay.. Un ang suriin mo. Tutulungan kita kung gusto mo...
 
m9soymax Sabi ko nga isa lang na bayatan ang pangalan.. Sdahil kung aa pangalan palang eh wala na sa biblia edi lalong hindi totoo.. Halimbawa. Catholic eh wla ka namang mababasang catholic sa biblia ni hindi binangit ni Cristo yanmeaningn relihiyon ang nkakasunod sa Biblia kaya ito ang tunay.. Un ang suriin mo. Tutulungan kita kung gusto mo...
The word catholic (with lowercase c; derived via Late Latin catholicus, from the Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos), meaning "universal") comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου (katholou), meaning "on the whole", "according to the whole" or "in general", and is a combination of the Greek words κατά meaning
Bat nga mas kapanipaniwala pa ang religion mo kaysa sa iba?
 
KeeJey cgurado ka walang mababasang bible sa Biblia? Eh kung may mabasa ako?
Wala nman talagang word na bible sa bible i dare you maghanap ka protip wala
Bible word is from
The English word Bible is from the Latin biblia, from the same word in Medieval Latin and Late Latin and ultimately from Koine Greek τὰ βιβλία ta biblia "the books" (singular βιβλίον biblion). ... The word βιβλίον itself had the literal meaning of "paper" or "scroll" and came to be used as the ordinaryword for "book".
 
sayang na late ako haha ayan sinabi na lahat ni m9soymax
you dare me? Ok challenge accepted. Haha
 
why would I answer you with that eh pabalik2 ka lang sa spiritual delusion mo haha wake up from reality!
Bakit mo nga naman sasagutin eh wala ka naman maibibigay na sagot. Simple as that. Hindi delusion yan uy katotohanan lang sinasabi ko. Masakit ba? Truth hurts sabi nga nila. Haha..
 
Bakit mo nga naman sasagutin eh wala ka naman maibibigay na sagot. Simple as that. Hindi delusion yan uy katotohanan lang sinasabi ko. Masakit ba? Truth hurts sabi nga nila. Haha..
Eh pano naman yung ibang religion nag claim na sila ang true religion?
Buti pa present ka ng per reviewed evidence ng god mo para di na tawaging delusion yan
 
Eh pano naman yung ibang religion nag claim na sila ang true religion?
Buti pa present ka ng per reviewed evidence ng god mo para di na tawaging delusion yan
Haha tingnan mo nga naman. Wala naman akong pinost sa thread na ito na kiniclaim ko na christianity ang true religion. Ang sinasabi ko dito na kahit sino pang Diyos ang kinikilala ng isang tao kung alam niyang ito'y Diyos ng Pag-ibig at Liwanag yun ang pagtiwalaan niya. Hindi naman pwedeng ang Diyos ay mabuti tapos masama rin. Hindi pwedeng both. Mabuti lang ang Diyos.

At the fact na isang Diyos lang ang kayang magbigay ng hinahangad ng lahat na "buhay na walang hanggan". Kaya nga naniniwala sa isang Diyos dahil isa itong superbeing meaning may kapangyarihang ibigay at gawin ang mga bagay na imposibleng ibigay at gawin ng isang tao sa kapwa niya tao.

Kaya nga humihingi ako sa inyo ni KeeJey ng taong kayang magbigay sa akin ng buhay na walang hanggan dahil kung meron bakit pa ako maniniwala sa Diyos kung itong "pinakahahangad ng lahat" ay maibibigay din pala ng tao. Wala nga kayong maibigay. Pero the fact na hindi, fail ang human na pinaniniwalaan niyo. Ang sakit di ba? Truth hurts but accept it.
 
Haha tingnan mo nga naman. Wala naman akong pinost sa thread na ito na kiniclaim ko na christianity ang true religion. Ang sinasabi ko dito na kahit sino pang Diyos ang kinikilala ng isang tao kung alam niyang ito'y Diyos ng Pag-ibig at Liwanag yun ang pagtiwalaan niya. Hindi naman pwedeng ang Diyos ay mabuti tapos masama rin. Hindi pwedeng both. Mabuti lang ang Diyos.

At the fact na isang Diyos lang ang kayang magbigay ng hinahangad ng lahat na "buhay na walang hanggan". Kaya nga naniniwala sa isang Diyos dahil isa itong superbeing meaning may kapangyarihang ibigay at gawin ang mga bagay na imposibleng ibigay at gawin ng isang tao sa kapwa niya tao.

Kaya nga humihingi ako sa inyo ni KeeJey ng taong kayang magbigay sa akin ng buhay na walang hanggan dahil kung meron bakit pa ako maniniwala sa Diyos kung itong "pinakahahangad ng lahat" ay maibibigay din pala ng tao. Wala nga kayong maibigay. Pero the fact na hindi, fail ang human na pinaniniwalaan niyo. Ang sakit di ba? Truth hurts but accept it.
anong truth ba? Paulit ulit ka lang po. Haha
 
Haha tingnan mo nga naman. Wala naman akong pinost sa thread na ito na kiniclaim ko na christianity ang true religion. Ang sinasabi ko dito na kahit sino pang Diyos ang kinikilala ng isang tao kung alam niyang ito'y Diyos ng Pag-ibig at Liwanag yun ang pagtiwalaan niya. Hindi naman pwedeng ang Diyos ay mabuti tapos masama rin. Hindi pwedeng both. Mabuti lang ang Diyos.

At the fact na isang Diyos lang ang kayang magbigay ng hinahangad ng lahat na "buhay na walang hanggan". Kaya nga naniniwala sa isang Diyos dahil isa itong superbeing meaning may kapangyarihang ibigay at gawin ang mga bagay na imposibleng ibigay at gawin ng isang tao sa kapwa niya tao.

Kaya nga humihingi ako sa inyo ni KeeJey ng taong kayang magbigay sa akin ng buhay na walang hanggan dahil kung meron bakit pa ako maniniwala sa Diyos kung itong "pinakahahangad ng lahat" ay maibibigay din pala ng tao. Wala nga kayong maibigay. Pero the fact na hindi, fail ang human na pinaniniwalaan niyo. Ang sakit di ba? Truth hurts but accept it.
OBVIOUSLY wala naman taong may magic na kaya mag immortal hahaha
pero i know sasabihin mo kaya ng god mo yan kasi nga nakasulat sa fictitious book mo, and hindi po yan OBVIOUS kasi puro lang yan sinabi ni kuwan kasi si kuwan guided by holy kuwan kya dapat paniwalaan si kuwan. Hahaha
 
Conversation between student and professor about God.

Does evil exist?

The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied, “Yes, he did!”

“God created everything? The professor asked.

“Yes sir”, the student replied.

The professor answered, “If God created everything, then God created evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are then God is evil”. The student became quiet before such an answer. The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

Another student raised his hand and said, “Can I ask you a question professor?”

“Of course”, replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked, “Professor, does cold exist?”

“What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?” The students snickered at the young man’s question.

The young man replied, “In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat.”

The student continued, “Professor, does darkness exist?”

The professor responded, “Of course it does.”

The student replied, “Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton’s prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn’t this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present.”

Finally the young man asked the professor, “Sir, does evil exist?”

Now uncertain, the professor responded, “Of course as I have already said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man’s inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.”

To this the student replied, “Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God’s love present in his heart. It’s like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.”

The professor sat down.

The young man’s name — Albert Einstein.
 
Conversation between student and professor about God.

Does evil exist?

The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied, “Yes, he did!”

“God created everything? The professor asked.

“Yes sir”, the student replied.

The professor answered, “If God created everything, then God created evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are then God is evil”. The student became quiet before such an answer. The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

Another student raised his hand and said, “Can I ask you a question professor?”

“Of course”, replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked, “Professor, does cold exist?”

“What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?” The students snickered at the young man’s question.

The young man replied, “In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat.”

The student continued, “Professor, does darkness exist?”

The professor responded, “Of course it does.”

The student replied, “Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton’s prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn’t this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present.”

Finally the young man asked the professor, “Sir, does evil exist?”

Now uncertain, the professor responded, “Of course as I have already said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man’s inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.”

To this the student replied, “Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God’s love present in his heart. It’s like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.”

The professor sat down.

The young man’s name — Albert Einstein.
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OBVIOUSLY wala naman taong may magic na kaya mag immortal hahaha
pero i know sasabihin mo kaya ng god mo yan kasi nga nakasulat sa fictitious book mo, and hindi po yan OBVIOUS kasi puro lang yan sinabi ni kuwan kasi si kuwan guided by holy kuwan kya dapat paniwalaan si kuwan. Hahaha
Hahaha yan ang gusto kong marinig sa'yo. E di inamin mo rin na hindi kaya ng tao ibigay ang buhay na walang hanggan. Kaya di mo kami mapapaniwalang walang Diyos. Wag na kasi ipilit. Haha
 
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