Trivia Being Woke 2024

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Gender roles agree mo na meron part sa culture yan. What I said was that GENDER is connected with your biological s3x. Gender roles on the other hand can be influence by culture and does can change overtime. Kaya nga even conservatism can adapt to changes also on Gender roles within the family.

Sa hirap ng buhay ngayon dito sa pinas, parents opt to work together to have a better life.

According sa sagot mo, seems like, even you, believe that gender is not something that is fixed to biology. Based ito sa cultural interpretation nung tao sa roles ng sêxes (aka, fluid). Like you said, gender is an adaptation. When we say that gender is a social construct, it does not mean gender is imaginary. All it means is that it was always a cultural adaptation.

So the gender norm in the bible is and adaptation for their culture in the past, isn't it fitting that we also adapt our idea of gender according to the overall culture of our time?

 

[GildartsTale]

gender is the social, cultural, and psychological roles themselves boss that a society considers appropriate for every person based on their perceived identities (the way they identify themselves), walang kinalaman ang biology

If wala talagang kinalaman ang biology sa gender. Why those who identify as this and that opt to change their biological s3x? Why opt for taking hormone blockers? Why transition?

The reason why di tayo agree, I equate gender to s3x. di hiwalay. gender-roles yung agree tayo.

According sa sagot mo, seems like, even you, believe that gender is not something that is fixed to biology. Based ito sa cultural interpretation nung tao sa roles ng sêxes (aka, fluid). Like you said, gender is an adaptation. When we say that gender is a social construct, it does not mean gender is imaginary. All it means is that it was always a cultural adaptation.

So the gender norm in the bible is and adaptation for their culture in the past, isn't it fitting that we also adapt our idea of gender according to the overall culture of our time?

It is fix. Ang sabi ko gender-roles yung di fix sa biology.

What specific gender norm/roles are you referring to in the bible?

 

[plhbg1]

If wala talagang kinalaman ang biology sa gender. Why those who identify as this and that opt to change their biological s3x? Why opt for taking hormone blockers? Why transition?

The reason why di tayo agree, I equate gender to s3x. di hiwalay. gender-roles yung agree tayo.

so you really think you can change your biological se̾x?

 

[GildartsTale]

so you really think you can change your biological se̾x?

As a conservative, yes you can but not fully. As long as age appropriate. Marami ng mga nag-gagawa nyan dito sa pinas.

 

[plhbg1]

As a conservative, yes you can but not fully. As long as age appropriate. Marami ng mga nag-gagawa nyan dito sa pinas.

not full? biological se̾x is based on chromosomes at sa pagka alam ko unchangeable yan, hard coded

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

If wala talagang kinalaman ang biology sa gender. Why those who identify as this and that opt to change their biological s3x? Why opt for taking hormone blockers? Why transition?

The reason why di tayo agree, I equate gender to s3x. di hiwalay. gender-roles yung agree tayo.

That is an important question. Did you ever ask the question to legitimately find an answer, instead of making the statement a rhetorical proof of your opinion?

Maraming reasons yan. Eto isa. If you are a teen who already expresses yourself differently from your biology, you are likely to be more respected and taken seriously in society after your transition, especially if you do it earlier in life. This does not reflect the trans persons view of gender role, it is merely a reaction to what the culture already is.

 

[plhbg1]

Maraming reasons yan. Eto isa. If you are a teen who already expresses yourself differently from your biology, you are likely to be more respected and taken seriously in society after your transition, especially if you do it earlier in life. This does not reflect the trans persons view of gender role, it is merely a reaction to what the culture already is.

another reason is that not all trans desire to change physical appearance, very subjective si gender whereas se̾x is hard coded (strongly objective), walang makaka bago niyan

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

It is fix. Ang sabi ko gender-roles yung di fix sa biology.

What specific gender norm/roles are you referring to in the bible?

Gender is nothing but the role we assign to people according to their biology. It is not a concept seperate from gender-role.

Ang ibig ko sabihin gender norms in the bible are the gendered ideals the bible prescribes. It is the totality of how any follower might interpret the prescriptions.

 

[GildartsTale]

not full? biological se̾x is based on chromosomes at sa pagka alam ko unchangeable yan, hard coded

Pwde naman, may mga hormon blockers/puberty blockers na binigay sa mga bata before they go to pubertly. Not fully because wala pang nagagawa to transplant or change the reproductive system. Maybe soon baka may maka invent na. We are already in an AI era. Fast na ang technology ngayon.

That is an important question. Did you ever ask the question to legitimately find an answer, instead of making the statement a rhetorical proof of your opinion?

Yes, genuine yung question ko.

Maraming reasons yan. Eto isa. If you are a teen who already expresses yourself differently from your biology, you are likely to be more respected and taken seriously in society after your transition, especially if you do it earlier in life. This does not reflect the trans persons view of gender role, it is merely a reaction to what the culture already is.

That is the problem is being teen is the problem there. I am okay as long as age appropriate.

Minor lang yan na reason kasi accepted naman most ang LGTBTQ++++ in society, they are accepted in major roles sa kahit anong establishment. Of course meron naman talagang mga prejudice against them. But now few nlang ata. Most of the transitions just want to bring their body (biology) the same as what they identify as.

 

[N E G A N]

Haha nowadays kanya kanyang trip na

 

[plhbg1]

Pwde naman, may mga hormon blockers/puberty blockers na binigay sa mga bata before they go to pubertly. Not fully because wala pang nagagawa to transplant or change the reproductive system. Maybe soon baka may maka invent na. We are already in an AI era. Fast na ang technology ngayon.

physical appearance lang yan boss, yung mga chromosomes ng cells nila are the same pa rin, those changes comes from external intervention, hindi pa din nabago ang internal programming ng katawan, they just disturb it by adding something into the system

 

[GildartsTale]

physical appearance lang yan boss, yung mga chromosomes ng cells nila are the same pa rin, those changes comes from external intervention, hindi pa din nabago ang internal programming ng katawan, they just disturb it by adding something into the system

Kaya nga sinabi ko not fully. Kasi most of the time outward appearance lang.

 

[plhbg1]

Kaya nga sinabi ko not fully. Kasi most of the time outward appearance lang.

di mo pa din masabing not fully boss kasi no chromosome is changed, yang mga changes only comes from external sources, wala pa din mi-isang chromosome na na change diyan

 

[GildartsTale]

Gender is nothing but the role we assign to people according to their biology. It is not a concept seperate from gender-role.

Ang ibig ko sabihin gender norms in the bible are the gendered ideals the bible prescribes. It is the totality of how any follower might interpret the prescriptions.

No gender as per woke dictionary is what you identify as. While gender roles are what culture/society expect you to act as per what you identify as. Kaya nga to me, okay lang even as a Man to take care sa mga anak while yung woman as the provider. Or Man can be emotional or woman can me strong.

 

[plhbg1]

No gender as per woke dictionary is what you identify as. While gender roles are what culture/society expect you to act as per what you identify as. Kaya nga to me, okay lang even as a Man to take care sa mga anak while yung woman as the provider. Or Man can be emotional or woman can me strong.

so it is limited to what is ok to you? hehe how about those roles that are not ok to you?

 

[GildartsTale]

di mo pa din masabing not fully boss kasi no chromosome is changed, yang mga changes only comes from external sources, wala pa din mi-isang chromosome na na change diyan

Now we are play with semantics here. As long as we agree that at least they transition outward appearance. Who knows baka nga in the future.

so it is limited to what is ok to you? hehe how about those roles that are not ok to you?

There are limits on what we can do. So as what roles we can do. Ang against ko lang is not the roles. Is yung gender identity na kinakalat ng mga woke. As per yung sa original post ko about gender can identify as seasons.

 

[plhbg1]

Now we are play with semantics here. As long as we agree that at least they transition outward appearance. Who knows baka nga in the future.

basic change of appearance boss is cutting the hair, shaving the hair, physical appearance lang yan kasi, at puro external intervention, yung se̾x kasi boss does not depend on your physical appearance, it's hard coded in the cellular level

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

another reason is that not all trans desire to change physical appearance, very subjective si gender whereas se̾x is hard coded (strongly objective), walang makaka bago niyan

True. It is important to note na ung motivations for transitioning are means to adapt socially in an already gendered culture. *******ion is not necessary as some keep their organs.
Contrary to what critics say, A male trans actually knows that they are male. They just want woman role and treated as such by society (especially by people who they are not intimately related to). And they don't want people who does not have any business with their sexuality telling them what they should and should not do based on their organ.

 

[plhbg1]

There are limits on what we can do. So as what roles we can do. Ang against ko lang is not the roles. Is yung gender identity na kinakalat ng mga woke. As per yung sa original post ko about gender can identify as seasons.

limits? and it is you who sets those limits? hehe

True. It is important to note na ung motivations for transitioning are means to adapt socially in an already gendered culture. *******ion is not necessary as some keep their organs.
Contrary to what critics say, A male trans actually knows that they are male. They just want woman role and treated as such by society (especially by people who they are not intimately related to). And they don't want people who does not have any business with their sexuality telling them what they should and should not do based on their organ.

yup gender role pa din yang pag change ng physical appearance, it is a voluntary decision, it is not se̾x, you can't decide about se̾x, it doesn't care how you identify yourself

 

[GildartsTale]

True. It is important to note na ung motivations for transitioning are means to adapt socially in an already gendered culture. *******ion is not necessary as some keep their organs.
Contrary to what critics say, A male trans actually knows that they are male. They just want woman role and treated as such by society (especially by people who they are not intimately related to). And they don't want people who does not have any business with their sexuality telling them what they should and should not do based on their organ.

Does not always the case. Maraming variables. Most who actually transition will be angered when you call them by their biological s3x. Even ngayon yung mga woke na maraming nang pronounce. They want to be identified not just having a role but as a woman/man/seasons.

limits? and it is you who sets those limits? hehe

our nature itself as human beings have limits. There are many things we cannot do. Like we can't fly with our hands.