An LGBT who is Anti- Anti-SOGIE Discrimination Bills

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An LGBT who is Anti- “Anti-SOGIE Discrimination Bills”

RYAN B. CAPITULO, M.D., FPOGS, FIFEPAG

Yes, I am an LGBT. And yes, I strongly oppose Senate Bill 935 (Anti-Discrimination Bill) and House Bill 4982 (SOGIE Equality Bill) for three reasons.

FIRST: There is no need to pass these proposed bills given that there are already many existing laws that safeguard the rights of every citizen against discrimination: (1) The 1987 Constitution of the Republic of the Philippines, (2) Presidential Decree No. 442 “Labor Code of the Philippines,” (3) Republic Act No. 386 “Civil Code of the Philippines,” (4) Republic Act No. 3019 “Anti-Graft and Corrupt Practices Act,” (5) Republic Act No. 6713 “Code of Conduct and Ethical Standards for Public Officials and Employees,” (6) Republic Act No. 3815 “The Revised Penal Code of the Philippines,” (7) Republic Act No. 7877 “Anti-Sexual Harassment Act of 1995,” including the (8) Universal Declaration of Human Rights. There are victims of discrimination for being ilocano or kapampangan or bisaya, but do we need an Anti-Ilokano or Anti-Kapampangan or Anti-Bisaya Discrimination Act? There are victims of discrimination because of their height, but do we need an Anti-Short Stature Discrimination Act? There are victims of discrimination because they are fat, but do we need an Anti-Obese Discrimination Act? These existing laws ensure that any form of discrimination is avoided. There is no need for additional laws in this regard. Republic Act No. 9710 “The Magna Carta of Women” is in no way similar to any of the proposed bills on Anti-SOGIE Discrimination. While this law affirms the rights of women and seeks to eliminate discrimination, it does not impose penalties that foster a sense of entitlement and undue advantage.

SECOND: We do not need an Anti-Discrimination or SOGIE Equality law because Filipinos are inherently accepting of lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders. Our society is innately tolerant of LGBTs. Proof of this would be the many Filipino LGBTs who are very successful in their respective fields: business, trade, media, education, fashion, healthcare, law, I.T., science and technology, arts, show business and even politics. The election of the honorable representative of the first district of Bataan, Rep. Geraldine B. Roman, is yet another validation. The Philippines has also consistently been recognized as one of the gay-friendly countries in the world and one of the gay-friendliest in Asia. In many households and families all over the country, LGBTs are accepted and loved, with many serving as primary breadwinners and caregivers. As an LGBT, I never experienced discrimination growing up, whether in school or at work. I can say that I am where I am now because of hard work, discipline, God-given intelligence and prayers.


THIRD: These proposed bills, when enacted into law, may be used as instruments to stifle or violate our freedom of religion and freedom to live out our faith. Allow me to elaborate by posing these questions: What will happen to a seminary or convent that will uphold Church laws by refusing admission to a transgender who wants to study and become a priest or nun? What will happen to parishes and Catholic universities that will not allow or recognize LGBT organizations in keeping with their mandate to abide by Church doctrines? What will happen to “all boys” or “all girls” Catholic schools that will not accept transgender children as students because this would go against the catechism they teach? What will happen to Catholic and Christian offices or companies like bookstores, travel agencies, radio stations, television networks or religious organizations that will not hire LGBT employees because it violates their faith-based beliefs? What will happen to a Muslim school (madrasah) that pledges obedience to the Quran and hadith and will not enrol transgender students who desire to be an imam? What will happen to a Jewish school that will not accept LGBT students applying to be a rabbi since Orthodox Judaism prohibits it? What will happen to churches of other denominations that will not employ LGBTs as pastors in compliance with their biblical beliefs? In all of these possible scenarios, the proposed bills may be used to take legal action against churches, mosques, temples, religious communities and faith-based organizations resulting in fines of up to 500,000 pesos or imprisonment of up to 6 years. Proponents of the bill have always asserted that ensuring non-discrimination for LGBTs on the basis of their sexual orientation and gender identity will not diminish or encroach on the rights of others. But the penal provisions of the proposed law say otherwise. Surely, we cannot expect the followers of the great religious traditions of the world to change their doctrines to accommodate a law that will violate their fundamental right to freely practice the very religion that they uphold. Forcing organized religion to set aside or modify its tenets is as absurd as forcing LGBTs to change their sexual orientation and gender identity.

As an LGBT, as a Catholic, as a man of faith, as a Filipino, I urge the Senate and the House of Representatives NOT to pass Senate Bill 935 and House Bill 4982.

- Doc Ryan Borja Capitulo

 

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sa tototo lang di natin kaylangan ng sogie bill na yan.. andyan ang mga existing law to protect their rights, ang discriminations at racism laging andyan yan at kahit kelan hindi yan mawawala lagi yan nag eexist sa anumang bansa sa kahit saang kultura, ang kulang lang siguro ng gobyerno ay dagdagan pa ang pag educate sa mga filipino tungkol sa mga karapatan ng mga nasa rainbow community.. ang nakaka badtrip dyan sa sogie bill ay nag simula yan dahil lang sa alitan sa isang banyo at gusto nila ang mga nakakarami pa kababaihan ang mag adjust sa kanila, sa issue ng toilet ang pinaka punto ay hindi ang sexual orientation, kundi kung ano ang iyong kasarian base sa iyong physical na katawan, at very intimidating para sa mga babae na may makita silang may isang may lawit na kasabay nilang sa banyo, ang sogie bill inaa comodate at binibigyan layaw ang lgbt community, pero iyan din ay pang dedegrade at pag discriminate sa mga natural/true born woman.

Mas mabuti pa isulong nalang nila ulit ang same-*** marriage, dahil madami ng bansa nagpapatulad nya, even though i really doubt na iyan ay maipapasa, lalo na sa mentalidad ng mga filipino na karamihan ay moral conservative base sa kanilang relihiyon bilang kristyano at muslim

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

sa tototo lang di natin kaylangan ng sogie bill na yan.. andyan ang mga existing law to protect their rights, ang discriminations at racism laging andyan yan at kahit kelan hindi yan mawawala lagi yan nag eexist sa anumang bansa sa kahit saang kultura, ang kulang lang siguro ng gobyerno ay dagdagan pa ang pag educate sa mga filipino tungkol sa mga karapatan ng mga nasa rainbow community.. ang nakaka badtrip dyan sa sogie bill ay nag simula yan dahil lang sa alitan sa isang banyo at gusto nila ang mga nakakarami pa kababaihan ang mag adjust sa kanila, sa issue ng toilet ang pinaka punto ay hindi ang sexual orientation, kundi kung ano ang iyong kasarian base sa iyong physical na katawan, at very intimidating para sa mga babae na may makita silang may isang may lawit na kasabay nilang sa banyo, ang sogie bill inaa comodate at binibigyan layaw ang lgbt community, pero iyan din ay pang dedegrade at pag discriminate sa mga natural/true born woman.

Mas mabuti pa isulong nalang nila ulit ang same-*** marriage, dahil madami ng bansa nagpapatulad nya, even though i really doubt na iyan ay maipapasa, lalo na sa mentalidad ng mga filipino na karamihan ay moral conservative base sa kanilang relihiyon bilang kristyano at muslim

Conservative o hindi, delikado yan batas n yan para sa mga babae. At hindi nmn sga mga bakla delikado, kundi.sa mga lalaki din na magkakaroon ng oportunidad abusuhin yan batas.

Yung same *** marriage nmn, wala nmn dapat pakialam ang simbahan jan. (Ignoring na merong may position sa simbahan ang miyembro ng lgbt.)Gusto lng nmn ng lgbt yung same rights na proteksyon ng mga kinakasal pagdating sa properties, mga anak, atbp.
Automatic kasi sa isip ng mga paconservative ung sêxual na practice ng lgbt, kaya knee-jerk din ang pagtutol.
SamantaLang ppwede nmn basta hindi sa simbahan gagawin.

 

[stellarium]

Conservative o hindi, delikado yan batas n yan para sa mga babae. At hindi nmn sga mga bakla delikado, kundi.sa mga lalaki din na magkakaroon ng oportunidad abusuhin yan batas.

Yung same *** marriage nmn, wala nmn dapat pakialam ang simbahan jan. (Ignoring na merong may position sa simbahan ang miyembro ng lgbt.)Gusto lng nmn ng lgbt yung same rights na proteksyon ng mga kinakasal pagdating sa properties, mga anak, atbp.
Automatic kasi sa isip ng mga paconservative ung sêxual na practice ng lgbt, kaya knee-jerk din ang pagtutol.
SamantaLang ppwede nmn basta hindi sa simbahan gagawin.

mahirap makalusot ang same ***-marriage dito sa bansa.. my point is the majority of filipinos are religious or lets just say we cannot disregard the force or religion, malalim ang ugat ng relihiyon sa bansa at para sa karamihan ang moralidad nila naka depende sa kanilang religion.. lets just take for example ang contain na ito, here is a member lgbt na anti ayaw sa sogie bill
and one of his reason, ah i quote na lang natin yung last part ng sinabi nya:

As an LGBT, as a Catholic, as a man of faith, as a Filipino, I urge the Senate and the House of Representatives NOT to pass Senate Bill 935 and House Bill 4982.

see.. one of his reasons kaya ayaw nya sa sogie bill ay dahil sa pagiging catholic nya.

anyway hindi ako religious agnostic ako, at sang ayon ako sa mas secular policies ng gobyerno, but within our goverment itself specifically sa legislative body karamihan ay conservative and religious, bukod sa hindi nila isusugal ang political career nila para lamang sa lgbt community, political career suicide kapag kinalaban nila ang mga religious groups, ang catholic church, ang inc, ang islam at halos lahat ng religious denominations sa mula luzon na maraming protestant, sa vizaya na majority ay mga cathiolic, hanggang muslim mindanao ay tutol sa same s3x marriage, just recently lang nakita ko sa social media kung papano itakwil si Robin Padilla ng mga kapatid nyang muslims, kung papano siya binatikos ng mga ustads at ulamah ng islam at tinawag siyang murtad (apostate) at munafiq (hypocrite) dahil sa kanyang kagustuhan isulong ang same *** marriage.. and it can happen to every politician, the day they cross the religious institutions is the day they need to say goodbye on their political arena.. sa europe at america malaya at proud ang kahit sinong pulitika na sabihin na sila ay atheists, or agnostic o skeptics na hindi maa pektuhan ang karera nila sa politika na walang babatikos sa kanila, not here in the philippines
hindi pa mulat sa kamalayan at sa tunay na sekyularismo ang mga filipino, wala pa balls ang ating mga pultiko nanatili padin sila naka gapos sa tanikala ng moralidad na tinuro sa kanila ng kanilang relihiyon, they still believe that morality depends on religion and their morality is their religion

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

mahirap makalusot ang same ***-marriage dito sa bansa.. my point is the majority of filipinos are religious or lets just say we cannot disregard the force or religion, malalim ang ugat ng relihiyon sa bansa at para sa karamihan ang moralidad nila naka depende sa kanilang religion.. lets just take for example ang contain na ito, here is a member lgbt na anti ayaw sa sogie bill
and one of his reason, ah i quote na lang natin yung last part ng sinabi nya:

As an LGBT, as a Catholic, as a man of faith, as a Filipino, I urge the Senate and the House of Representatives NOT to pass Senate Bill 935 and House Bill 4982.

see.. one of his reasons kaya ayaw nya sa sogie bill ay dahil sa pagiging catholic nya.

anyway hindi ako religious agnostic ako, at sang ayon ako sa mas secular policies ng gobyerno, but within our goverment itself specifically sa legislative body karamihan ay conservative and religious, bukod sa hindi nila isusugal ang political career nila para lamang sa lgbt community, political career suicide kapag kinalaban nila ang mga religious groups, ang catholic church, ang inc, ang islam at halos lahat ng religious denominations sa mula luzon na maraming protestant, sa vizaya na majority ay mga cathiolic, hanggang muslim mindanao ay tutol sa same s3x marriage, just recently lang nakita ko sa social media kung papano itakwil si Robin Padilla ng mga kapatid nyang muslims, kung papano siya binatikos ng mga ustads at ulamah ng islam at tinawag siyang murtad (apostate) at munafiq (hypocrite) dahil sa kanyang kagustuhan isulong ang same *** marriage.. and it can happen to every politician, the day they cross the religious institutions is the day they need to say goodbye on their political arena.. sa europe at america malaya at proud ang kahit sinong pulitika na sabihin na sila ay atheists, or agnostic o skeptics na hindi maa pektuhan ang karera nila sa politika na walang babatikos sa kanila, not here in the philippines
hindi pa mulat sa kamalayan at sa tunay na sekyularismo ang mga filipino, wala pa balls ang ating mga pultiko nanatili padin sila naka gapos sa tanikala ng moralidad na tinuro sa kanila ng kanilang relihiyon, they still believe that morality depends on religion and their morality is their religion

Un lang.
Saan ba kasi dapat magsisimula ang secularismo kungdi sa tao, susunod lang ang pulitiko at ang relihiyon na parehas gawa lang din nmn ng mga tao.
Masyadong malakas kasi na Katolisismo sa atin, na hindi nmn sana problema, kaso fundemantalist lang ang klase ng pagsunod at pagiisip ng mga tao sa relihiyon nila. Mayroon ngang mga sekta na tumiwalag, kaso ganun din, fundamentalist padin. At tingin ko ganyan din ang mga muslim.

Pero sa totoo lng, marami nang mulat sa na pilipino lalo na ung mga nakapag aral. Sadyang malakas lng ang impluwensya ng relihiyon nila kaya hanggang ngayon kailangan padin magpakitang tao.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Ang batas ay meron pros and cons. Depende sa tao kung saan beneficial at kung saan advantageous sa kanila. E kung based on individual person ay nakakatulong sa kanya at hindi naman harmful or sabihin natin na harmless , malamang agree siya sa mismong bill mismo except lang sa mga tao na harmful para sa kanila ang bill. Ganun lang naman iyon. Ika nga depende sa majority sapagkat wala naman perfect law. Hindi perfect ang mundo natin.

Ang pagkakaintindi ko , based lang naman na nabasa ko although hindi ko naman lahat nabasa na magkakaroon ng rights ang mga transgender men at transgender women at ang mga taga LGBTQ since prone sila pagdating sa crime and rape since wala naman pumapansin sa karapatan ng LGBTQ katulad na lang nabalitaan sa murder case ng transgender na lalake na pinatay and meron din ako na narinig na rape ng babae galing 5 lesbians at maraming iba pa. Tapos meron pang pinatalsik sa school dahil sa pagiging transgender and then , meron pang pinatalsik ng family ang mismong anak na bakla kaya nakatira na sa kalsada at meron din family na ginapos ang babae at hindi pinalabas ng bahay dahil pini-prevent ng family na huwag makipagkita ang anak na babae sa lesbian ......... maraming cases kaya siguro na momonitor ng government ang nangyayari sa loob ng LGBTQ and iyon din ata siguro kung bakit ginawa na ng bill dahil nga walang pumapansin sa karapatan nila.

Again. Meron pros and cons at depende sa each individual person kung saan siya nakakabenefit. Sa ibang bansa ay sino-support nila ang ganyan bill.

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just because we have existing anti-discrimination laws does not mean SOGIE is automatically covered

every law has always a section called "Repealing clause" and what you are suggesting is actually removing that clause in every law hehe