What are Satanist Like?

[stellarium]

maraming group ang Satanism pero ang pinaka popular ay ang binanggit mo ang Laveyan Satanism or Church of Satan sila the other one is the splinter group from Lavey the Temple of Set, ang pagkakaiba ng dalawa ang Laveyan ay Atheistic Satanism ang philosphy nila ay carnal and materialistic while ang TOS ay more on occult their model is Set the equivalent of Satan in ancient pagan religion their philosophy is solid platonic like the platonic philosophy they believe that individual can attain a higher state of consciousness by tapping into the world of abstract ideas and forms, which can be achieved through practices of meditation, ritual, and contemplation. Parehas nilang di sinasamba si Satan o si Set.

The other groups are the Traditional or Theistic Satanism, sila yung mga literal na sumasamba kay Satan, ang kanilang paniniwala ay synthesis ng gnosticism, hermeticism.
Ang masasabi ko lang good guy ang mga Satanists taliwas sa misconception na sila ay may human sacrifice and burnt offering for Satan, at Karamihan sa kanila ay mga edukado at matataas pinag aralan the founder of Temple of Set Michael Aquino is a scholar with doctroral degree, the leader of their branch the Order of Trapezoid Stephen Flowers is a scholar of Germanic History, ang kanilang Satanic groups ay registered sa US as legitimate religious group at exempted sa taxes tulad ng ibang religious groups.

Madami ako noon na encounter online na Satanists nun kasasagsagan na mahilig pa ko sa occultism, medyo nakakakilabot talaga mga rituals nila, altars and magickal weapons, lalo na kung di mo alam kung ano ba yung true meaning ng mga rituals and invocations, pero kung pamilyar ka sa occultism and its symbolism masasabi mo theres is nothing new with satanism they just bunches of peps that go against the grain of standard social norm, they just inverted the doctrines of typical religions kung sa christianity Yaweh and Jesus is the good guys, for satanists Satan is the good guy, the symbol of free spirit, individualty and strong will, for traditional satanists Satan is the true god who saved humanity, at nasusulat nga sa Al-Jilwa the sacred book of the Yezidi at isa sa pinagpipitagan aklat ng mga traditional satanists from the mouth of the prince of darkness: "And in the secret cave of my wisdom it is known that there is no god but myself, Knowing this, who dares worship the false gods of the Koran and bible?"

Now kung meron lang ako dalawang choice kung sino ang sasambahin ko Yahweh the biblical god, or Satan si Satan ang pipiliin ko. Dahil kung babasahin mo ang bibliya (Old Testament) marami ka mababasa na murder, arson, human sacrifice, pillage, burnt offerings at ethnic cleansing kung ano ano pa violence under the commandment of god, the crime of biblical god against humanity ay napakadami, Satan is zero, wala ka mababasa sa bibliya na nag utos si Satan ng murder and human and animal sacrifice, lahat ng yan puro gawain ng diyos ng bibliya. Nakakatawa isipin na malakas mang husga at mang akusa ang mga christians na ang mga satanists daw ay nag aalay ng buhay sa mga satanic rituals nila na wala naman ebidensya pero di nila nakita na yung inaakusa nila sa mga satanists ay gawain ng diyos nila na si Yahweh at kung saan bibliya mismo ang ebidensya at makakapag patunay. Kaya kung bibliya ang pag uusapan at ang sukatan ng pagiging Satan or Devil ay mga nagawang Krimen ay masasabi natin na Yahweh is the true Satan and the true Demon.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

maraming group ang Satanism pero ang pinaka popular ay ang binanggit mo ang Laveyan Satanism or Church of Satan sila the other one is the splinter group from Lavey the Temple of Set, ang pagkakaiba ng dalawa ang Laveyan ay Atheistic Satanism ang philosphy nila ay carnal and materialistic while ang TOS ay more on occult their model is Set the equivalent of Satan in ancient pagan religion their philosophy is solid platonic like the platonic philosophy they believe that individual can attain a higher state of consciousness by tapping into the world of abstract ideas and forms, which can be achieved through practices of meditation, ritual, and contemplation. Parehas nilang di sinasamba si Satan o si Set.

The other groups are the Traditional or Theistic Satanism, sila yung mga literal na sumasamba kay Satan, ang kanilang paniniwala ay synthesis ng gnosticism, hermeticism.
Ang masasabi ko lang good guy ang mga Satanists taliwas sa misconception na sila ay may human sacrifice and burnt offering for Satan, at Karamihan sa kanila ay mga edukado at matataas pinag aralan the founder of Temple of Set Michael Aquino is a scholar with doctroral degree, the leader of their branch the Order of Trapezoid Stephen Flowers is a scholar of Germanic History, ang kanilang Satanic groups ay registered sa US as legitimate religious group at exempted sa taxes tulad ng ibang religious groups.

Madami ako noon na encounter online na Satanists nun kasasagsagan na mahilig pa ko sa occultism, medyo nakakakilabot talaga mga rituals nila, altars and magickal weapons, lalo na kung di mo alam kung ano ba yung true meaning ng mga rituals and invocations, pero kung pamilyar ka sa occultism and its symbolism masasabi mo theres is nothing new with satanism they just bunches of peps that go against the grain of standard social norm, they just inverted the doctrines of typical religions kung sa christianity Yaweh and Jesus is the good guys, for satanists Satan is the good guy, the symbol of free spirit, individualty and strong will, for traditional satanists Satan is the true god who saved humanity, at nasusulat nga sa Al-Jilwa the sacred book of the Yezidi at isa sa pinagpipitagan aklat ng mga traditional satanists from the mouth of the prince of darkness: "And in the secret cave of my wisdom it is known that there is no god but myself, Knowing this, who dares worship the false gods of the Koran and bible?"

Now kung meron lang ako dalawang choice kung sino ang sasambahin ko Yahweh the biblical god, or Satan si Satan ang pipiliin ko. Dahil kung babasahin mo ang bibliya (Old Testament) marami ka mababasa na murder, arson, human sacrifice, pillage, burnt offerings at ethnic cleansing kung ano ano pa violence under the commandment of god, the crime of biblical god against humanity ay napakadami, Satan is zero, wala ka mababasa sa bibliya na nag utos si Satan ng murder and human and animal sacrifice, lahat ng yan puro gawain ng diyos ng bibliya. Nakakatawa isipin na malakas mang husga at mang akusa ang mga christians na ang mga satanists daw ay nag aalay ng buhay sa mga satanic rituals nila na wala naman ebidensya pero di nila nakita na yung inaakusa nila sa mga satanists ay gawain ng diyos nila na si Yahweh at kung saan bibliya mismo ang ebidensya at makakapag patunay. Kaya kung bibliya ang pag uusapan at ang sukatan ng pagiging Satan or Devil ay mga nagawang Krimen ay masasabi natin na Yahweh is the true Satan and the true Demon.

San ka ba nanggaling? Hinihintay ko ung sagot comment mo kasi alam ko may matututunan ako eh.. haha

Napansin ko, madaming similarity ang Satanism sa gnosticsm, they might as well be categorized as a gnostic sect. Sakin nmn, ang compelling na narrative kung kailangan ko pumili ng isa, is ung Valentinian gnosticsm kung ang pag-uusapan lang ay yung narrative ng belief. Ang difference lng nila sa Satanism, Jesus would be considered an emmisary of the good guys aka Sophia(wisdom) aka Satan. Considering philo•sophy literally means love for wisdom, and the OT god aka demiurge aka Yaldabaoth, declared wisdom as sin from the beginning.

Well it is just my biases kaya mas trip ko yan. It makes more coherent sense to me.

Salamat sa comment btw.

 

[Sbing]

do not do unto others ; others do not do unto you .

 

[powerboy]

Following this discussion

 

[ImpulseToDestroy]

Red Satan do you have any to say in this?

 

[stellarium]

San ka ba nanggaling? Hinihintay ko ung sagot comment mo kasi alam ko may matututunan ako eh.. haha

Napansin ko, madaming similarity ang Satanism sa gnosticsm, they might as well be categorized as a gnostic sect. Sakin nmn, ang compelling na narrative kung kailangan ko pumili ng isa, is ung Valentinian gnosticsm kung ang pag-uusapan lang ay yung narrative ng belief. Ang difference lng nila sa Satanism, Jesus would be considered an emmisary of the good guys aka Sophia(wisdom) aka Satan. Considering philo•sophy literally means love for wisdom, and the OT god aka demiurge aka Yaldabaoth, declared wisdom as sin from the beginning.

Well it is just my biases kaya mas trip ko yan. It makes more coherent sense to me.

Salamat sa comment btw.

medyo bc paps kaya di na ko nakakababad dito sa phc na tulad ng dati, malapit na nga ata mawala elite status ko

Actually hindi lang sa Satanism almost every occult system and spritual practice ay may influence ng gnosticism. Ang Aeon system ng Valentinianism at Tree of Life ng Jewish Kabbalah, the aeon of Valentinian gnosticism and the tree of life of kabbalah both describes spiritual realms with complex hierarchical structures emanated from God.

Sa traditional satanism (or gnostic satanism) nagkaka isa sila sa isang bagay, the importance of Serpent in the garden of Eden, parehas sila naniniwala na ang serpent of eden ay positive figure, for christian gnostics ang serpent sa garden of eden and the story of adam in eve ay hindi literal kundi symbolic story of man's spritual down fall and instructions how to restore mans godly stature, while in most traditional satanist groups, they interpret it as partly literal story, the story of satan as the saviour, and the giver of knowlege (gnosis). They trace the history of Satan the ancient symbols of serpent from different ancient cultures and spritual traditions, from the symbol of caduceus na symbol ngayon ng medisina to the serpent (Naga) in Hinduism, naniniwala sila na si Satan as serpent ay nasa ibat ibang kultura at spritual system he is always the good guy, the giver of wisdom, and the true saviour of humanity.

Pag dating naman kay Jesus kahit agnostic atheist ako i respect that man, jesus and satan compliment each other, they are polar opposites, christianity and gnosticism are irrelevant without them, they represents the duality of in religion.

 

[jonreb]

Who made morality and what is the standard of it

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Open minded po kasi ang state kaya registered ang Satanist beliefs nila doon pero kung dito lang iyon, patay tayo iyan, haha Magrarally iyan malamang ang majority of the filipino people na papigilan na hindi iparegister ang ganoon belief system. Wala naman ginagawa ang mga Satanist. Ang weird lang kasi, respetuhin raw ang beliefs ng iba kaya nga , meron freedom of religion diba? Then sabay , magrarally sila. Wala lang. Na iimagine ko lang po. Kasama kasi tayo as religious country po.​

 

[plhbg1]

Ang weird lang kasi, respetuhin raw ang beliefs ng iba kaya nga , meron freedom of religion diba?​

it is because Satan is the Christian God of evil, so satanists are actually disrespecting the Christian religion, tulad noong ginawa ni Luka sinamba niya ang Jesus Christ in a different way edi pinalabas din na wala siyang respect sa Christian religion, the point is ayaw ng mga Christians na pinapaki-alaman ang Gods nila lalo na yung God of evil nila which is a very important God to maintain the goodness of their doctrines

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

it is because Satan is the Christian God of evil, so satanists are actually disrespecting the Christian religion, tulad noong ginawa ni Luka sinamba niya ang Jesus Christ in a different way edi pinalabas din na wala siyang respect sa Christian religion, the point is ayaw ng mga Christians na pinapaki-alaman ang Gods nila lalo na yung God of evil nila which is a very important God to maintain the goodness of their doctrines

If their god was created from scratch, okay lng sila mag inarte. Ang kaso nbuo ung god nila sa pakikialam a pag distort ng polytheitic religion nuon. Kaya nga sila na persecute noong time na yun.
They would be doing exactly the same kind of persecution they suffered in history to modern satanists. making it plausible na, if satanism spread in the future, christian will be the antagonist, like how they antogonized the polytheistic societies such as the Roman Empire.

Who made morality and what is the standard of it

Is there really such an objective thing called morality? Every religion makes their own set of rules. Most rules are based on basic empathy, mixed into each their own interpretation of their myths.

 

[plhbg1]

Is there really such an objective thing called morality? Every religion makes their own set of rules. Most rules are based on basic empathy, mixed into each their own interpretation of their myths.

yup, the concept of right and wrong has long been very subjective, there is no universally accepted morality

 

[mutagenesisx]

maraming tao kasi iniisip nila na yung mga satanist at pagan occultist ay iisa.

mas nakakatakot pa ata yung mga kulto na mahilig mag basa nang latin kesa sa mga satanist, sa pagkaka alam ko kasi karamihan sa mga satanist ay highly educated at well versed sa bible... so alam nila na si "Satan" ay angel at hindi yung "satan" na inembento nang mga briton na mala "demonic".

kagaya nang sa US na nagkaroon nang satanic panic dati, well yung mga "satanist" na tinutukoy nila dati ay mga occultist kagaya nang kulto ni Alester Crowley na wala namang link sa Satanism.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

maraming tao kasi iniisip nila na yung mga satanist at pagan occultist ay iisa.

mas nakakatakot pa ata yung mga kulto na mahilig mag basa nang latin kesa sa mga satanist, sa pagkaka alam ko kasi karamihan sa mga satanist ay highly educated at well versed sa bible... so alam nila na si "Satan" ay angel at hindi yung "satan" na inembento nang mga briton na mala "demonic".

kagaya nang sa US na nagkaroon nang satanic panic dati, well yung mga "satanist" na tinutukoy nila dati ay mga occultist kagaya nang kulto ni Alester Crowley na wala namang link sa Satanism.

Mas nakakatakot talaga ang occultist mapa-pagan pa yan o based sa christianity. Ung morality nila ay mas likely pa mag defy ng basic empathy kesa sa satanist.

Yung misconception na sumasamba ang mga satanist sa isang red mythical beast with tail and horns, evidence yan na ang ang mga christian ang hindi nakakaalam kung ano ang sinabi sa bibliya at hindi. Yung imahe kasi how most people would think about satan is really a medieval folklore character influenced by dante's inferno's visualization of hell.

Most modern satanist are more likely to be atheist, but it is more interesting to undertand the belief of the satanist who still believes in superstitiuos characters. They have some interesring myths and literature.