Trivia Atheist Logic

[jayendecastro]

ah yes, the infinite regress and god of the gaps logic.

Plus special pleading

 

[plhbg1]

Walang god. God was only created to comfort those who can't accept the brutal truth of reality.

malapit ng maubos ang unknowns na kakapitan nila, science is unstoppable, nakakag clone na tayo ng hayop, naging slow lang ang human cloning dahil banned ang research nito mostly sa mga countries at religion ang dahilan bakit banned and slow ang research ng human cloning, takot silang man creates man

 

[Kage22]

malapit ng maubos ang unknowns na kakapitan nila, science is unstoppable, nakakag clone na tayo ng hayop, naging slow lang ang human cloning dahil banned ang research nito mostly sa mga countries at religion ang dahilan bakit banned and slow ang research ng human cloning, takot silang man creates man

May ethical issue sa human cloning saka may batas rin kasi na bawal mag experiment kapag human ang subject and I agree with you that as science solve the things that are mystery today, religion will be long gone.

 

[plhbg1]

may batas rin kasi na bawal mag experiment kapag human ang subject

this did not happen to vaccines, nakakapag trial sila using human as lab rats, kasi naman iilang religion lang ang may against dito but iba for cloning, lahat na lang ata ng religion against nito, di tuloy ma-maximize ang what can science do, mas powerful pa ngayon ang religions kaysa science

 

[Kage22]

this did not happen to vaccines, nakakapag trial sila using human as lab rats, kasi naman iilang religion lang ang may against dito but iba for cloning, lahat na lang ata ng religion against nito, di tuloy ma-maximize ang what can science do, mas powerful pa ngayon ang religions kaysa science

Sa mga unethical lang ata ang bawal pero yun sa vaccine may consent naman yun. Yun cloning kasi walang consent yun sa subject since di naman alam ng subject na gagawin syang experiment or hindi pa sya conscious prior from the experiment kaya unethical at bawal sya.

 

[plhbg1]

Sa mga unethical lang ata ang bawal pero yun sa vaccine may consent naman yun. Yun cloning kasi walang consent yun sa subject since di naman alam ng subject na gagawin syang experiment or hindi pa sya conscious prior from the experiment kaya unethical at bawal sya.

tama nga naman, hindi kasi masabi na voluntary without the consciousness involved, so i think government din ang ayaw, so nakita na natin na ang science is limited by laws kasi observable siya e, yung religion kahit mag magic sila sa kanilang minds diyan di iyan pipigilan since wala namang ma observe diyan, ang observable lang ang sakop ng law, but kathang isip wala paki law doon, mag dream ka ng kahit anu walang pipigil doon

 

[Kage22]

tama nga naman, hindi kasi masabi na voluntary without the consciousness involved, so i think government din ang ayaw, so nakita na natin na ang science is limited by laws kasi observable siya e, yung religion kahit mag magic sila sa kanilang minds diyan di iyan pipigilan since wala namang ma observe diyan, ang observable lang ang sakop ng law, but kathang isip wala paki law doon, mag dream ka ng kahit anu walang pipigil doon

Government talaga may kapangyarihan to make things legal. Ang dami kasing application ng cloning like organ harvesting, stem cells, etc but it also poses a serious moral and ethical dillemas kaya di yan mangyayare ang human cloning at least for now.

 

[plhbg1]

Government talaga may kapangyarihan to make things legal. Ang dami kasing application ng cloning like organ harvesting, stem cells, etc but it also poses a serious moral and ethical dillemas kaya di yan mangyayare ang human cloning at least for now.

but those in the government meron sila religions, under the influence sila, di naman puro non-theist andun e, di pa din masasabi na hands up ang religion dito, palagi nga nakiki-alam kasi takot na malaman ng tao na ang mundo can exist normally kahit wala sila

 

[Kage22]

Ang religion kahit mag magic sila sa kanilang minds diyan di iyan pipigilan since wala namang ma observe diyan, ang observable lang ang sakop ng law, but kathang isip wala paki law doon, mag dream ka ng kahit anu walang pipigil doon

Baka darating din ang time na magiging limited ang religiois practices in the future since it promotes ignorance. Baka dumating ang time na ipagbabawal yan.

but those in the government meron sila religions, under the influence sila, di naman puro non-theist andun e, di pa din masasabi na hands up ang religion dito, palagi nga nakiki-alam kasi takot na malaman ng tao na ang mundo can exist normally kahit wala sila

Allowed naman sila to hold postion in the government as long as maging objective sila pagdating sa mga usapin pero in practice di parin nasusunod yan kasi majority ng population ng pinas mga religious. Our only hope is to educate the young to build a nation with a secular mind.

PS: pardon of my reply. Di ako sanay paano mag quote dito. Hindi katulad sa facebook.

 

[plhbg1]

Baka darating din ang time na magiging ang religiois practices in the future since promots ignorance. Baka dumating ang time na ipagbabawal yan.

but it would take for science to eliminate those unknowns na kinakapitan nila before natin masasabi na ignorance nga, ngayon pwede pa sila maka debate sa atin kasi wala ring sagot ang science e, may laban pa sila hehe

 

[Kage22]

but it would take for science to eliminate those unknowns na kinakapitan nila before natin masasabi na ignorance nga, ngayon pwede pa sila maka debate sa atin kasi wala ring sagot ang science e, may laban pa sila hehe

Pero wag ka, may mga christian na sumasang-ayon sa theory of evolution at bigbang and they're calling themselves as progressive christian. Mostly sikat sila sa US.

 

[plhbg1]

Allowed naman sila to hold postion in the government as long as maging objective sila pagdating sa mga usapin pero in practice di parin nasusunod yan kasi majority ng population ng pinas mga religious. Our only hope is to educate the young to build a nation with a secular mind.

PS: pardon of my reply. Di ako sanay paano mag quote dito. Hindi katulad sa facebook.

ang nangyayari kasi both educated and uneducated ay meron religion, in case of uneducated yung religion ang nagsisilbing education na rin nila kaya wala silang second opinion dun at nagiging true agad ang religion

Pero wag ka, may mga christian na sumasang-ayon sa theory of evolution at bigbang and they're calling themselves as progressive christian. Mostly sikat sila sa US.

i hope yung progressive nila is that they allow updates, kasi mostly ayaw ng updates e kasi perfect at complete na daw ang naka sulat

 

[Kage22]

ang nangyayari kasi both educated and uneducated ay meron religion, in case of uneducated yung religion ang nagsisilbing education na rin nila kaya wala silang second opinion dun at nagiging true agad ang religion

Oo di talaga guarantee ang pagtatapos para maging secular ang isang tao. Profession is a body of knowledge and a set of skills in specific fields, and hindi ito commenplary sa pagiging secular ng isang tao. To become a secular is to question everything and to go out from one's comfort zone but sadly, kaunti lang ang may guts para salungatin ang nakasanayan nya.

i hope yung progressive nila is that they allow updates, kasi mostly ayaw ng updates e kasi perfect at complete na daw ang naka sulat

They're more tolerant to science than to there Philippine christians counterart.

 

[plhbg1]

They're more tolerant to science than to there Philippine christians counterart.

wow good to know, at least they are closer to being agnostic, parang maintain faith until science falsifies it, ako kasi is leave the faith until science proves it

 

[Kage22]

wow good to know, at least they are closer being agnostic, parang maintain faith until science break it

They're similar to deism. The only distinction is they still believe in god's intervention in every aspects of human lives like miracle etc.

It could be if only they have the guts to go beyond of what they have conform.