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President Rodrigo Duterte and his alter egos doubt their own countrymen whose boat was sunk by a Chinese ship in the West Philippine Sea on June 9, 2019

After 22 Filipino fishermen aboard fishing boat Gem-Ver You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. by a Chinese vessel in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea), they face another collision at home: with their own government.
While the fishermen insisted that they were rammed by a Chinese vessel, President Rodrigo Duterte on June 17 You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. as a "maritime incident."
At the same time, Duterte's men either refused to adopt the fishermen's statements or contradicted them outright.
The President himself echoed China's foreign ministry, which said on June 13 that the sinking of Gem-Ver You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. He refused to condemn China – You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. against the United States, the European Union, Canada, and Kuwait over perceived affronts to Filipinos.
Duterte also You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. of a joint Manila-Beijing investigation into the issue – which, according to critics, places the Philippines and China in one team against the fishermen.
"Hindi namin alam kung kinakampihan pa kami (We don't know if they're still siding with us)," You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., one of the owners of Gem-Ver, on June 18.

Senator Panfilo Lacson said Duterte's spokesman, Salvador Panelo, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.
"He is acting like the defense ministry of China, or is lawyering for the Chinese crew, because he is finding loopholes in our fishermen's words," said Lacson in a mix of English and Filipino. "His mindset is like a defense counsel entering his appearance for China, as if he was in a courtroom."

Is the Philippine government indeed lawyering for China?


The incident is only part of the stream of a grander issue: the Philippines' rights over Recto Bank.
Duterte himself downplays the Philippines' exclusive rights to fish in the area.

This is despite a 2016 international ruling that recognizes Recto Bank as part of the Philippines' exclusive economic zone, a 200-nautical mile area where the Philippines has the exclusive rights to fish and enjoy other resources, such as oil and natural gas.

Simply put: The waters where the Philippine boat was sunk by a Chinese ship belong to the Philippines alone.
Duterte on June 21 said the Recto Bank incident was not an attack on Philippine sovereignty, but You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. over the area.

On June 24, Duterte stressed that Recto Bank "has two conflicting claims of ownership," even if a Hague tribunal already ruled, once and for all, that the West Philippine Sea belongs to the Philippines.
In effect, Duterte, like China, was not recognizing the Hague ruling of 2016.


In the same June 24 interview, a journalist asked the President: "Will you prevent China from fishing within our EEZ? Iyong pwede po bang… kasi 'yun 'yung request ng mga fishermen?"
Duterte answered: "I don't think that China would do that. Why? Because we're friends. And they are of the same view that that should not result in any bloody confrontation."

Panelo, interpreting Duterte, said the Philippines "will allow" China to fish in the West Philippine Sea "kasi we're friends naman, 'di magbigayan muna tayo



Experts say the Recto Bank incident could only be a test of the Duterte government's reaction to China’s similar moves in the future. If the government reacts lightly, this could further embolden China to ram more Filipino boats to drive them away from the West Philippine Sea.


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Intentional or accident the fact remains that we can't risk escalating things to warring with China. It's a very stupid action and response.

Its common sense that right now China has way more military might, weapons and even in economic power. No matter how brave the Filipinos are we can be easily wiped out by China if it comes to the point that we go to war with them.

And don't you dare say that we can always ask or depend on the US or any of the western allies to go to war for us because truth be told any western ally can't afford going to war with China or at least not expecting something greater in return for their actions.
 
Intentional or accident the fact remains that we can't risk escalating things to warring with China. It's a very stupid action and response.

Its common sense that right now China has way more military might, weapons and even in economic power. No matter how brave the Filipinos are we can be easily wiped out by China if it comes to the point that we go to war with them.

And don't you dare say that we can always ask or depend on the US or any of the western allies to go to war for us because truth be told any western ally can't afford going to war with China or at least not expecting something greater in return for their actions.
Tama ..at marAmi naman noon na pangyayari ..sa panahon ni noynoy . Ngayun lang pinalaki.. That means naghahanap lang sila ng butas...para sisihin si Du30
 
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Tibay ng loob palakpakan kahit walang kumakampi haha.. kaano ano mo si laila de lima? O si trillanes? Duterte is the best president ever.. di pa tayo makapalag sa ngayon sana may isang duterte pa sa next presidency para sa near future di na tayo ma intimidate ng ibang bansa. Kase si duterte pinapaganda at pinapalakas ang pilipinas paunti unti. Di gaya ng mga idol mo mga bahay at bulsa lang pinapaganda..
 
"Ignored"
inored daw.. kase sobrang dami ko na binanat sau.. hindi mo lahat masagot.. lalong lalo na ung.. 150 million pesos na tulay na pinagawa ng LP mo sa leyte kung saan nahulog sina cong. albiee benitez bakit ganun presyo?? 150 million para lang sa tulay na kahot at ang liit pa.. eh d2 sa bacolod city 150 million na project ni duterte tulay na bakal sobrang laki dinadaanan na ng mga truck at bus. ano nangyari awinahe umiiwas kase nakikita ung anomalya ng LP mo? tapos makikisaw saw sila sa gyera eh ayaw nga nila ng ROTC lang.. pero gusto nila makipag gyera para lang sa south china sea.. sa isda at sa maliit na bangka na nabanga? **** mo tlaga awinahe.
 
Kahit siguro magtanong ka ng Baliw sa kalsada sasaihin sayu Duterte is the best President. awinahe anong klase ka, bakit hindi mo nakikita mga magagandang gnawa ng duterte para sa atin, para sa pamilya mo . haaa? Sarap mong dukutin at dalhin sa harap ni Duterte at gusto ko makita pag mumukha mo na Face to Fce si duterte iwan ko nalang kung masasabi mo pa mga pinuputak mo. Tol kung isa kang Pilipino na tunay na may malasakit. Ito na ohh ito na ang Presidente na matagal natin hinihintay .. Wise na Presidente, matalino at matapang. Baka sabihin mo duwa sa china? Tol may plano dyan si duterte pero hinay hinay lang sya baka matapilok.
 
America nga di makapalag , Tayu pa kaya.. Sos nku isang Hulog ng Nuclear bomb sa Pilipinas, yang ang tinatawag na PEENIS na, erase tayu sa mapa.
 
Intentional or accident the fact remains that we can't risk escalating things to warring with China. It's a very stupid action and response.

Its common sense that right now China has way more military might, weapons and even in economic power. No matter how brave the Filipinos are we can be easily wiped out by China if it comes to the point that we go to war with them.

And don't you dare say that we can always ask or depend on the US or any of the western allies to go to war for us because truth be told any western ally can't afford going to war with China or at least not expecting something greater in return for their actions.
Pinasabog ba ng china viet
America nga di makapalag , Tayu pa kaya.. Sos nku isang Hulog ng Nuclear bomb sa Pilipinas, yang ang tinatawag na PEENIS na, erase tayu sa mapa.
**** vietnam nga pumapalag eh. Try ng china sakupin dagat ng US kung di pumalag yun. Ni-Ban nga huawie sa US anung takot dun? Si dutae nagmamatapang tiklop naman pala sa china ang takot.

Sit rodrigo.. Sit.
-Xi Jinping
 
Pinasabog ba ng china viet

**** vietnam nga pumapalag eh. Try ng china sakupin dagat ng US kung di pumalag yun. Ni-Ban nga huawie sa US anung takot dun? Si dutae nagmamatapang tiklop naman pala sa china ang takot.

Sit rodrigo.. Sit.
-Xi Jinping

Pumapalag nga Vietnam pero napaalis ba nila ang China sa karagatan nila? Ang sagot HINDI.

Yong mga ibang bansa na may pagtatalo din sa teritoryo ng karagatan sa China katulad ng Malaysia, Brunei at iba pa? Napaalis ba nila ang China? Ang sagot HINDI.

Yong mga bansa na inaagawan ng teritoryo sa karagatan ng China puro mga kaalyado ng US. May ginawa at nagawa ba ang US at mga kaalyado nito? Ang sagot wala rin. Puro warning lang at pakita.

Nanalo nga tayo sa arbitration case sa International Tribunal/Court laban sa China base sa UNCLOS agreement pero ngayon sino magpapatupad at nagpapatupad nyan? Tayo? Ang United States? Ang mga western allies? Ang tatay mo? Ang sagot WALA! Kaya balewala rin at walang saysay ang panalo natin kung walang magpapatupad ng batas. Tinawanan lang yan ng China.

Tumiklop ang United States sa pag ban Huawei. Binawe na ni Trump ang ban ng Huawei mula noong June 29th noong nandoon siya sa G20 summit sa Osaka, Japan. Biglang nag U-turn ang mokong ng mismo mga taga Tech sector at mga soybean farmer ang nagmamakaawa na sa kanya mismo na luging lugi na sila sa Trade war ng China.

Sino ba naman hindi aaray nyan kung ang kinakalaban mo ay ang refiner/producer/supplier ng 95% ng rare earth materials sa mundo kung saan ang tech sector ay masyadong nakadepende at siya rin ang bumibili ng 60% ng soybean production mo. Para na rin nagbigti ang United States sa sarili nya. "Trade wars are easy to win." daw sabi ni Trump. LOL.

Hindi lahat nadadaan sa tapang tapangan. Pa minsan minsan lunukin ang pride at mag isip, mag adjust at mag adapt. Para magkaroon ng tsansa sa hinaharap na makipagsabayan sa mga may tunay na lakas. Wala na patutunguhan ang tapang tapangan ngayon kung wala kang ika bubuga.
 
...isa pong katotohanan na...kahit sampung batas pa basahin sa china di sila mapipigilan...di nga sila masita na US ...pilipinas pa kaya...yun ang sabi ni duterte...
 
...isa pong katotohanan na...kahit sampung batas pa basahin sa china di sila mapipigilan...di nga sila masita na US ...pilipinas pa kaya...yun ang sabi ni duterte...
Ang tanong dyan.. sana noon pa pinigilan sa mga previuos administration... ngayun pa na malaki na ang mga base nila.. Ngayun sinisisi na si Duterte.. noon na nag constract pa lamang ng mga base.... Walang ingay... Ogok din yung mga tao.. Ngayun
 
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Ang tanong dyan.. sana noon pa pinigilan sa mga previuos administration... ngayun pa na malaki na ang mga base nila.. Ngayun sinisisi na si Duterte.. noon na nag contract pa lamang ng mga base.... Walang ingay... Ogok din yung mga tao.. Ngayun
Ito ang dapat sagutin ni awinahe , guess ko sagot ni awinahe ha, kasi Responsibilidad nya naman bilang isang presidente yan eh hahaha. Wala ng pakialam dyan c Master Noy hahabaha
 
GuSto kasi nila...pasamain ang administrasyon di parin kasi sila maka move on dahil mayor davao lang ang tatalo sa mga maka pangyarihan at nghahari harian sa pilipinas...hahaha
Ang tanong dyan.. sana noon pa pinigilan sa mga previuos administration... ngayun pa na malaki na ang mga base nila.. Ngayun sinisisi na si Duterte.. noon na nag constract pa lamang ng mga base.... Walang ingay... Ogok din yung mga tao.. Ngayun
 
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