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This one is really a very bad piece of news 😕

Duterte's government might allow China to take Hanjin Port in Subic.

If this pushes thru, I think it will be one of the worst things that can happen to the country. Why? Because Hanjin port (a former USA strategic military naval base) is protecting The West Philippine Sea. Once it's in the hands of China, they have a military and strategic position in the region which, for sure will worry big powers like the US, Japan, Australia...

At a local level, thousands of Filipinos will lose their jobs as chinese workers will be the ones hired... then they will totally control the fishing grounds in the WPS... no more fish for Filipinos, except the one fished by the chinese in our waters and sold to us (like the galunggung)

China is spreading its hegemony in S-E Asia with the help of duterte :mad: Like they already did in
Djibouti (Africa) in 2017 were they set up a military base...

If they get Hanjin Port, they will have 2 feet na in our country! Duterte was not joking when he said that he will be happy if the Philippines was a province of china :mad: he is doing everything he can for us to get there...
kawawa Pilipinas 🇵🇭


Edit: "It is no secret that where Chinese economic interests are, Chinese military and security forces follow"
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awinahe said:
This one is really a very bad piece of news 😕

Duterte's government might allow China to take Hanjin Port in Subic.

If this pushes thru, I think it will be one of the worst things that can happen to the country. Why? Because Hanjin port (a former USA strategic military naval base) is protecting The West Philippine Sea. Once it's in the hands of China, they have a military and strategic position in the region which, for sure will worry big powers like the US, Japan, Australia...

At a local level, thousands of Filipinos will lose their jobs as chinese workers will be the ones hired... then they will totally control the fishing grounds in the WPS... no more fish for Filipinos, except the one fished by the chinese in our waters and sold to us (like the galunggung)

China is spreading its hegemony in S-E Asia with the help of duterte :mad: Like they already did in
Djibouti (Africa) in 2017 were they set up a military base...

If they get Hanjin Port, they will have 2 feet na in our country! Duterte was not joking when he said that he will be happy if the Philippines was a province of china :mad: he is doing everything he can for us to get there...
kawawa Pilipinas 🇵🇭


Edit: "It is no secret that where Chinese economic interests are, Chinese military and security forces follow"
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President Rodrigo Duterte is "very receptive" to the idea of a government takeover of the debt-saddled Hanjin Philippines and use this to build ships for the country's Navy and Coast Guard, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said Wednesday.
Lorenzana made the statement Wednesday when the senators raised the possibility of the government getting control of the South Korean shipyard in Subic during the deliberations on the proposed 2019 budget of the Department of National Defense.
Majority Leader Juan Miguel Zubiri said it would be a "golden opportunity" for the DND to use the Hanjin facility.
Lorenzana said while they sympathize with the financial woes of Hanjin, they are buoyed by the possibility of the Philippines having its own ship building capability.
“Navy Flag Officer in Command (Vice Admiral Robert) Empedrad mentioned to me why not we take over the Hanjin and give it to the Navy to manage. And so I brought this idea to the President last night and he is very receptive to the idea,” Zubiri said.
Zubiri said Finance Secretary Carlos Dominguez was apprehensive because he was thinking how the local banks can recoup their investments in the shipyard amounting to $430 million.
“But really this is perfect for us, we are actually ordering ships abroad. If we can keep this, we can build our own ships here, the Coast Guard also needs ships,” he said.
Lorenzana said the government can be a minority owner and the majority owner would be a civilian company but Zubiri and Senator Panfilo Lacson said the government could be the majority owner and partner with a private company.
“It could be that management of the facility is from private and majority of stakes will be with the government. Kapag nag-allocate na pondo imbes na bibili tayo, ipapagawa natin dito sa government owned and controlled corporation, some joint venture,” said Zubiri.
“Kumita pa tayo, ‘yung pondo na gagastusin, imbes na mapunta sa ibang bansa, Filipino pa ang gumagawa ng barko natin. I think this is a win-win solution,” he added.
Lacson said the government can take over the facility using the P75 billion floating fund in the proposed 2019 budget.
“The $430 million is roughly around P22-23 billion. There is a float of P75 billion in the proposed 2019 budget. Give or take nasa P100 billion kung isasama ang ALGU (assistance to local government units). So P22 billion, what if the government will just take over Hanjin and then bid out to possible partners, private entities? So kikita pa ang gobyerno di ba. Is that a good idea?” he asked Lorenzana.
The Defense secretary said it could be a good idea as the Navy has to build 20 ships in the next five years.
When asked by Lacson if the Navy can take over the facility, Empedrad replied that they can handle a portion of it.
“We cannot take over the entire Hanjin but a portion of it,” the Navy official said.
Hanjin Philippines filed last week a petition before the Regional Trial Court in Olongapo City for voluntary rehabilitation under Republic Act 10142 or the law providing for the rehabilitation or liquidation of financially distressed enterprises and individuals.
Hanjin Philippines officials revealed to the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority that the company has around $400 million in outstanding loans from Philippine banks on top of $900 million in debts owed to South Korea lenders.
Two Chinese shipbuilding companies have expressed intent to invest in debt-riddled Hanjin Heavy Industries and Construction Philippines, the Department of Trade Industry (DTI) said last Friday, prompting former Philippine Navy chief Alexander Pama to remind the public that the development is not just about business


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Puro paninira lang alam nito..Akala mo kayu lang meron...

President Rodrigo Duterte is "very receptive" to the idea of a government takeover of the debt-saddled Hanjin Philippines and use this to build ships for the country's Navy and Coast Guard, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said Wednesday.
Lorenzana made the statement Wednesday when the senators raised the possibility of the government getting control of the South Korean shipyard in Subic during the deliberations on the proposed 2019 budget of the Department of National Defense.
Majority Leader Juan Miguel Zubiri said it would be a "golden opportunity" for the DND to use the Hanjin facility.
Lorenzana said while they sympathize with the financial woes of Hanjin, they are buoyed by the possibility of the Philippines having its own ship building capability.
“Navy Flag Officer in Command (Vice Admiral Robert) Empedrad mentioned to me why not we take over the Hanjin and give it to the Navy to manage. And so I brought this idea to the President last night and he is very receptive to the idea,” Zubiri said.
Zubiri said Finance Secretary Carlos Dominguez was apprehensive because he was thinking how the local banks can recoup their investments in the shipyard amounting to $430 million.
“But really this is perfect for us, we are actually ordering ships abroad. If we can keep this, we can build our own ships here, the Coast Guard also needs ships,” he said.
Lorenzana said the government can be a minority owner and the majority owner would be a civilian company but Zubiri and Senator Panfilo Lacson said the government could be the majority owner and partner with a private company.
“It could be that management of the facility is from private and majority of stakes will be with the government. Kapag nag-allocate na pondo imbes na bibili tayo, ipapagawa natin dito sa government owned and controlled corporation, some joint venture,” said Zubiri.
“Kumita pa tayo, ‘yung pondo na gagastusin, imbes na mapunta sa ibang bansa, Filipino pa ang gumagawa ng barko natin. I think this is a win-win solution,” he added.
Lacson said the government can take over the facility using the P75 billion floating fund in the proposed 2019 budget.
“The $430 million is roughly around P22-23 billion. There is a float of P75 billion in the proposed 2019 budget. Give or take nasa P100 billion kung isasama ang ALGU (assistance to local government units). So P22 billion, what if the government will just take over Hanjin and then bid out to possible partners, private entities? So kikita pa ang gobyerno di ba. Is that a good idea?” he asked Lorenzana.
The Defense secretary said it could be a good idea as the Navy has to build 20 ships in the next five years.
When asked by Lacson if the Navy can take over the facility, Empedrad replied that they can handle a portion of it.
“We cannot take over the entire Hanjin but a portion of it,” the Navy official said.
Hanjin Philippines filed last week a petition before the Regional Trial Court in Olongapo City for voluntary rehabilitation under Republic Act 10142 or the law providing for the rehabilitation or liquidation of financially distressed enterprises and individuals.
Hanjin Philippines officials revealed to the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority that the company has around $400 million in outstanding loans from Philippine banks on top of $900 million in debts owed to South Korea lenders.
Two Chinese shipbuilding companies have expressed intent to invest in debt-riddled Hanjin Heavy Industries and Construction Philippines, the Department of Trade Industry (DTI) said last Friday, prompting former Philippine Navy chief Alexander Pama to remind the public that the development is not just about business


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Totally agree, this not a fake news (for once) and I even talked about it in my precedent post: "even Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said that "Hanjin could be naval base, government supplier of ships" if taken over by the government... " Thank you for proving what I said was true
The problem, as I said earlier, this was said in january... please read my post if you did not!
awinahe said:
1. I recognized that LadyClare had some good points (because, unlike the DDS I know to recognize my mistakes which, to me, is proof of intellectual honesty) but I did not say she was right all along.

2. I am not the only one having these thoughts about Hanjin Port... People more knowledgeable than me have the same... even Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said that "Hanjin could be naval base, government supplier of ships" if taken over by the government... So if the PH government could make Hanjin a naval base why not the chinese? Plus Sec. Lorenzana was also concerned about our sovereignty if chinese take it over... This was in January when the government said they will bar chinese companies to take over Hanjin!! But, after duterte went to china, suddenly it's ok if china take it over... don't tell me this doesn't smell fishy!

3. I talked about Palawan in a small sentence in parentheses. It's LadyClare herself who bounced on it and said wrong things that I could not leave uncorrected.

4. I don't want to get rid of chinese as you present it. I acknowledge that many chinoy are helping our country... I just don't want the Philippines to become a "province of china" like duterte said.

5. Since duterte is in power, I never saw so much division among us... this is directly his doing "divide to conquer" diba?
I'm a pacifist at heart and dedicated my life to helping people, especially the poorest that's why I cannot stay "on the fence" when my countrymen are slaughtered like chickens and my country given away to china... How I wish we could all love each other!

6. Yes, many of my threads are against this administration but they are not "all bad mouth" as you said... I usually stay polite (although I sometimes use sarcasm or humor), the bad mouth are the dds trolls, they are the ones making all toxic... don't shoot the messenger!
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Totally agree, this not a fake news (for once) and I even talked about it in my precedent post: "even Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said that "Hanjin could be naval base, government supplier of ships" if taken over by the government... " Thank you for proving what I said was true
The problem, as I said earlier, this was said in january... please read my post if you did not!
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May mali paring napupuna si awinahe boss spymopats , tanungin mo nga kung sino dapat ang iboto?
 
eto nanaman ang awinahe palagi fake news mga dala d2.. nung last post nito tinanong ko kung bakit 150 milyon pesos ang pera na ginastos ng LP para sa maliit na tulay na kahoy sa leyte kung saan nalaglag sina albee benitez nung sinalanta ng bagyo yolanda hindi mo pa nga nasasagot .. eto ka naman ngaun. fake news ka nanaman para manira ng gobyerno d2 sa PHCORNER .. kahit ano gawin mo kulelat na LP wala na naniniwala sa kanila.
FORUM ADMIN sirado nyo na nga tong page at paki banned narin tong palagi FAKE NEWS na awinahe nato.tnx
 
paki report nalang tong fake news na awinahe sa FORUM ADMIN post ng post ng mga Fake news para lang makuha ng points at magtagal ang pagiging estblished yan ang pinaka simple paraan para magtagal pagiging estblished, katulad ng mga ginawa ng iba rin na banned d2 sa PH CORNER. Report nyo nalang.
 
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