Closed Turo 4: ang diyos ay isang trinidad

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Turo 4: Ang Diyos ay Isang Trinidad

Saan nagmula ang turong ito?


“Pagkatapos ng lahat ng pagsusuri, ang doktrina ng Trinidad ay naimbento lamang pala noong huling bahagi ng ika-4 na siglo. At totoo naman ito . . . Ang ideyang ‘tatlong Persona sa iisang Diyos’ ay walang matibay na saligan, at tiyak na hindi lubusang tinanggap ng mga Kristiyano, bago matapos ang ika-4 na siglo.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Tomo 14, pahina 299.

“Nagtipon noong Mayo 20, 325 [C.E.] ang Konseho ng Nicaea. Si Constantino mismo ang nangasiwa, anupat minaniobra niya ang mga talakayan, at ipinanukala . . . ang mahalagang ideya hinggil sa kaugnayan ni Kristo sa Diyos ayon sa kredong pinalabas ng konseho, na ‘ang Ama at si Kristo ay iisa.’ . . . Dahil sa takot sa emperador, ang mga obispo, maliban sa dalawa, ay pumirma sa kredo kahit labag ito sa kanilang kalooban.”—Encyclopædia Britannica (1970), Tomo 6, pahina 386.

Ano ang sinasabi ng Bibliya?
“Puspos ng Espiritu Santo, tumingin si Esteban sa langit at nakita ang kaluwalhatian ng Dios. Naroon si Jesus, nakatayo sa kanang kamay ng Dios. ‘Tingnan ninyo,’ wika niya, ‘Nakikita kong bukas ang langit at ang Anak ng Tao na nakatayo sa kanang kamay ng Dios.’”—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., Ang Biblia, Bagong Salin sa Pilipino.

Ano ang ipinahihiwatig ng pangitaing ito? Puspos ng aktibong puwersa ng Diyos, nakita ni Esteban si Jesus na “nakatayo sa kanang kamay ng Dios.” Kaya maliwanag, hindi naging Diyos si Jesus nang buhayin siyang muli bilang ibang espiritung persona. Sa ulat na ito, walang binanggit na ikatlong persona sa tabi ng Diyos. Sa kabila ng mga pagsisikap na makakita ng mga teksto na susuporta sa turo ng Trinidad, ganito ang isinulat ng paring Dominiko na si Marie-Émile Boismard sa kaniyang aklat na À l’aube du christianisme—La naissance des dogmes (Ang Pasimula ng Kristiyanismo—Ang Pagsilang ng mga Doktrina): “Ang pananalitang tatlong persona sa iisang Diyos . . . ay wala sa Bagong Tipan.”

Ang turong itinaguyod ni Constantino ay nilayon para tapusin ang di-pagkakasundo sa Simbahan noong ikaapat na siglo. Pero ang totoo, nagbangon ito ng isa pang isyu: Si Maria ba, na nagsilang kay Jesus, ang “Ina ng Diyos”?

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ANG TOTOO:
Ang doktrina ng Trinidad ay naimbento lamang noong huling bahagi ng ikaapat na siglo

 

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dyos si jesus ,

marami lamang
saling salita ukoL sa
pagkiLanLan nya ,

isa syang hangin o ( spiritu )
masdan mu ang hangin
nararamdaman mu subaLit di mu nakikita kong pasaan parito ito ,

tinatawa din syang

ang anak ng tao ,

bakit ?

dahiL sa laman ,

ayae nya ding hayagang
ipamukha sabhin na sya ay dyos

bahala n ang mga
nasa saknya ang HUMUSGA
AT kong sino sya,

dahil ang pag parito
nya nun i pagpapakilala

sa pamamagitan
ng sakripisyo nya ,

at pag aalis ng
kasalanan sa pamamagitan
nya ,

walang sino mang
makakakita sa dyos
kundi sa pamamagitan nya ,


isang halimbawa again,

tinanong nya
ang alagad ,sino ako ?

tugon ni pedro,

ikaw ang dyos na buhay

sagot ng iiLan,
guro ( RABI )
ipakita nyo samin ang
dyos ama at masaya na kami,

hindi mu ba ako
nakikilala ?

ang nakakita nasa akin
ay nakakita nasa ama ,

mapalad ang mga
taong di naabotan ang
yugto ng pag dating ko
SUBALIT NANINIWALA
NA

AKO AY
SI AKO NGA !!

MATALINGHAGA
tlaga ang saLita ni jesus

kung kaya naman

tanging mga
hinirang lamang
ang may kakayahang
makapaniwala sakanya

nag katawang tao


lamang sya para maisatuparan

ang kanyang misyon
sa pamamagitan ng laman,

dahilang,

dyos sya at di

hayagang

lantaran mu sya makapiling sa lakas ng kanyang pwersa kaya

nagkalamang
tao nalamang sya ,

at dahil tapos na

ang propesiya

parating na

ang KATAPOSAN

sya ang verbo
at ang verbo ay dyos,

ang alpha at
ang OMEGA

MULA PANIMULA

HANGGANG KATAPOSAN

SYA NAWA !!

HARI NG MGA HARI
PANGINUON NG MGA
PANGINUON

SYA NAWA !!

AMEN

 

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dyos si jesus ,

marami lamang
saling salita ukoL sa
pagkiLanLan nya ,

isa syang hangin o ( spiritu )
masdan mu ang hangin
nararamdaman mu subaLit di mu nakikita kong pasaan parito ito ,

tinatawa din syang

ang anak ng tao ,

bakit ?

dahiL sa laman ,

ayae nya ding hayagang
ipamukha sabhin na sya ay dyos

bahala n ang mga
nasa saknya ang HUMUSGA
AT kong sino sya,

dahil ang pag parito
nya nun i pagpapakilala

sa pamamagitan
ng sakripisyo nya ,

at pag aalis ng
kasalanan sa pamamagitan
nya ,

walang sino mang
makakakita sa dyos
kundi sa pamamagitan nya ,


isang halimbawa again,

tinanong nya
ang alagad ,sino ako ?

tugon ni pedro,

ikaw ang dyos na buhay

sagot ng iiLan,
guro ( RABI )
ipakita nyo samin ang
dyos ama at masaya na kami,

hindi mu ba ako
nakikilala ?

ang nakakita nasa akin
ay nakakita nasa ama ,

mapalad ang mga
taong di naabotan ang
yugto ng pag dating ko
SUBALIT NANINIWALA
NA

AKO AY
SI AKO NGA !!

MATALINGHAGA
tlaga ang saLita ni jesus

kung kaya naman

tanging mga
hinirang lamang
ang may kakayahang
makapaniwala sakanya

nag katawang tao


lamang sya para maisatuparan

ang kanyang misyon
sa pamamagitan ng laman,

dahilang,

dyos sya at di

hayagang

lantaran mu sya makapiling sa lakas ng kanyang pwersa kaya

nagkalamang
tao nalamang sya ,

at dahil tapos na

ang propesiya

parating na

ang KATAPOSAN

sya ang verbo
at ang verbo ay dyos,

at ng sya i mailuwalhati
na

yugto naman nila
steban at ng mga
alagad ang naganap

at isa iss na silang
kinasihan ng BANAL NA
espiruto santo sa liblib na
bahay,

at nagsalit ng
ibat ibang wika

mantalang di naman nila
inaral or pinuntahan na,
ang ibat ibang salin ng salita at ng
bansa

ang alpha at
ang OMEGA

MULA PANIMULA

HANGGANG KATAPOSAN

SYA NAWA !!

HARI NG MGA HARI
PANGINUON NG MGA
PANGINUON

SYA NAWA !!

AMEN

 

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Sino “ang Salita”?

Kinikilala ng maraming Griegong iskolar at mga tagapagsalin ng Bibliya na itinatampok ng You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. ang katangian at hindi kung sino “ang Salita.” Sinasabi ng tagapagsalin ng Bibliya na si William Barclay: “Dahil walang pamanggit na pantukoy na ginamit [si apostol Juan] sa unahan ng theos, naging pang-uri ito . . . Hindi sinasabi rito ni Juan na ang Salita ay siya ring Diyos. Sa maikli, hindi niya sinasabi na si Jesus ay Diyos.” Ganito rin ang sinabi ng iskolar na si Jason David BeDuhn: “Sa wikang Griego, kapag walang ginamit na pantukoy sa theos sa isang pangungusap gaya sa You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., iisipin ng inyong mga mambabasa na ito ay ‘isang diyos.’” Idinagdag pa ni BeDuhn na dahil walang pantukoy ang theos, ibang-iba ito sa ho theos, kung paanong ang ‘isang diyos’ ay iba sa ‘Diyos.’ Sinabi rin niya: “Sa You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., ang Salita ay hindi ang iisa-at-tanging Diyos, kundi isang diyos, o isang personang gaya ng Diyos.” Ayon naman kay Joseph Henry Thayer, isa sa mga iskolar na bumuo ng American Standard Version: “Ang Verbo[o, Salita] ay diyos, hindi ang Diyos mismo.”

Nilinaw ni Jesus na magkaiba sila ng kaniyang Ama

“Napakalaking misteryo” ba ang pagkakakilanlan ng Diyos? Para kay Jesus, hindi ito isang misteryo. Sa panalangin sa kaniyang Ama, nilinaw ni Jesus na magkaiba sila ng kaniyang Ama nang sabihin niya: “Ito ay nangangahulugan ng buhay na walang hanggan, ang kanilang pagkuha ng kaalaman tungkol sa iyo, ang tanging tunay na Diyos, at sa isa na iyong isinugo, si Jesu-Kristo.” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Kung naniniwala tayo kay Jesus at nauunawaan natin ang malinaw na turo ng Bibliya, igagalang natin kung sino talaga siya—ang Anak ng Diyos. Sasambahin din natin si Jehova bilang “ang tanging tunay na Diyos.”

dyos si jesus ,



marami lamang

saling salita ukoL sa

pagkiLanLan nya ,



isa syang hangin o ( spiritu )

masdan mu ang hangin

nararamdaman mu subaLit di mu nakikita kong pasaan parito ito ,



tinatawa din syang



ang anak ng tao ,



bakit ?



dahiL sa laman ,



ayae nya ding hayagang

ipamukha sabhin na sya ay dyos



bahala n ang mga

nasa saknya ang HUMUSGA

AT kong sino sya,



dahil ang pag parito

nya nun i pagpapakilala



sa pamamagitan

ng sakripisyo nya ,



at pag aalis ng

kasalanan sa pamamagitan

nya ,



walang sino mang

makakakita sa dyos

kundi sa pamamagitan nya ,





isang halimbawa again,



tinanong nya

ang alagad ,sino ako ?



tugon ni pedro,



ikaw ang dyos na buhay



sagot ng iiLan,

guro ( RABI )

ipakita nyo samin ang

dyos ama at masaya na kami,



hindi mu ba ako

nakikilala ?



ang nakakita nasa akin

ay nakakita nasa ama ,



mapalad ang mga

taong di naabotan ang

yugto ng pag dating ko

SUBALIT NANINIWALA

NA



AKO AY

SI AKO NGA !!



MATALINGHAGA

tlaga ang saLita ni jesus



kung kaya naman



tanging mga

hinirang lamang

ang may kakayahang

makapaniwala sakanya



nag katawang tao





lamang sya para maisatuparan



ang kanyang misyon

sa pamamagitan ng laman,



dahilang,



dyos sya at di



hayagang



lantaran mu sya makapiling sa lakas ng kanyang pwersa kaya



nagkalamang

tao nalamang sya ,



at dahil tapos na



ang propesiya



parating na



ang KATAPOSAN



sya ang verbo

at ang verbo ay dyos,



at ng sya i mailuwalhati

na



yugto naman nila

steban at ng mga

alagad ang naganap



at isa iss na silang

kinasihan ng BANAL NA

espiruto santo sa liblib na

bahay,



at nagsalit ng

ibat ibang wika



mantalang di naman nila

inaral or pinuntahan na,

ang ibat ibang salin ng salita at ng

bansa



ang alpha at

ang OMEGA



MULA PANIMULA



HANGGANG KATAPOSAN



SYA NAWA !!



HARI NG MGA HARI

PANGINUON NG MGA

PANGINUON



SYA NAWA !!



AMEN

dyos si jesus ,

marami lamang
saling salita ukoL sa
pagkiLanLan nya ,

isa syang hangin o ( spiritu )
masdan mu ang hangin
nararamdaman mu subaLit di mu nakikita kong pasaan parito ito ,

tinatawa din syang

ang anak ng tao ,

bakit ?

dahiL sa laman ,

ayae nya ding hayagang
ipamukha sabhin na sya ay dyos

bahala n ang mga
nasa saknya ang HUMUSGA
AT kong sino sya,

dahil ang pag parito
nya nun i pagpapakilala

sa pamamagitan
ng sakripisyo nya ,

at pag aalis ng
kasalanan sa pamamagitan
nya ,

walang sino mang
makakakita sa dyos
kundi sa pamamagitan nya ,


isang halimbawa again,

tinanong nya
ang alagad ,sino ako ?

tugon ni pedro,

ikaw ang dyos na buhay

sagot ng iiLan,
guro ( RABI )
ipakita nyo samin ang
dyos ama at masaya na kami,

hindi mu ba ako
nakikilala ?

ang nakakita nasa akin
ay nakakita nasa ama ,

mapalad ang mga
taong di naabotan ang
yugto ng pag dating ko
SUBALIT NANINIWALA
NA

AKO AY
SI AKO NGA !!

MATALINGHAGA
tlaga ang saLita ni jesus

kung kaya naman

tanging mga
hinirang lamang
ang may kakayahang
makapaniwala sakanya

nag katawang tao


lamang sya para maisatuparan

ang kanyang misyon
sa pamamagitan ng laman,

dahilang,

dyos sya at di

hayagang

lantaran mu sya makapiling sa lakas ng kanyang pwersa kaya

nagkalamang
tao nalamang sya ,

at dahil tapos na

ang propesiya

parating na

ang KATAPOSAN

sya ang verbo
at ang verbo ay dyos,

at ng sya i mailuwalhati
na

yugto naman nila
steban at ng mga
alagad ang naganap

at isa iss na silang
kinasihan ng BANAL NA
espiruto santo sa liblib na
bahay,

at nagsalit ng
ibat ibang wika

mantalang di naman nila
inaral or pinuntahan na,
ang ibat ibang salin ng salita at ng
bansa

ang alpha at
ang OMEGA

MULA PANIMULA

HANGGANG KATAPOSAN

SYA NAWA !!

HARI NG MGA HARI
PANGINUON NG MGA
PANGINUON

SYA NAWA !!

AMEN

 

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Sino o Ano ang “Alpha at ang Omega”?
Ang sagot ng Bibliya


“Ang Alpha at ang Omega” ay ang Diyos na Jehova, ang Makapangyarihan-sa-lahat. Tatlong beses itong mababasa sa Bibliya.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

Bakit tinatawag ng Diyos ang sarili niya na “ang Alpha at ang Omega”?
Ang alpha at omega ang una at huling letra sa alpabetong Griego, ang wikang ginamit para isulat ang bahagi ng Bibliya na karaniwang tinatawag na Bagong Tipan. Kasama rito ang aklat ng Apocalipsis. Ginamit ang mga letrang ito para ipakita na si Jehova lang ang pasimula at ang wakas. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Siya ang Diyos na Makapangyarihan-sa-lahat mula sa panahong walang pasimula, at hindi ito magbabago magpakailanman. Siya lang ang “mula pa sa panahong walang takda hanggang sa panahong walang takda.”—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

Sino ang “una at ang huli”?
Sa Bibliya, tumutukoy ito sa Diyos na Jehova at sa kaniyang Anak na si Jesus, pero sa magkaibang dahilan. Tingnan ang dalawang halimbawa.

• Sa You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., sinabi ni Jehova: “Ako ang una at ako ang huli, at bukod pa sa akin ay walang Diyos.” Idiniriin dito ni Jehova na siya ang tunay na Diyos magpakailanman; wala nang iba pa bukod sa kaniya. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Sa kasong ito, magkasingkahulugan ang “una at ang huli” at ang “Alpha at ang Omega.”
  
  
• Lumitaw rin ang “Una [pro’tos, hindi alpha] at ang Huli [e’skha·tos, hindi omega]” sa You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. Makikita sa konteksto ng mga talatang ito na ang tinutukoy rito ay namatay at binuhay-muli. Kaya hindi ito puwedeng tumukoy sa Diyos dahil hindi naman siya namamatay. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Pero si Jesus ay namatay at muling binuhay. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Siya ang unang tao na binuhay-muli bilang isang imortal na espiritu sa langit, kung saan siya maninirahan “magpakailan-kailanman.” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Pagkatapos nito, si Jesus na ang nagsagawa at magsasagawa ng iba pang pagbuhay-muli. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Kaya siya ang huli na direktang binuhay-muli ni Jehova. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Kaya angkop lang na tawagin si Jesus na “ang Una at ang Huli.”
  

Ipinapakita ba ng You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. na si Jesus ang “Alpha at ang Omega”?
Hindi. Hindi ipinakilala kung sino ang nagsasalita sa You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., at marami ring nagsasalita sa kabanatang ito. Ganito ang sabi ni Propesor William Barclay sa bahaging ito ng Apocalipsis: “Lumilitaw na hindi ito isinulat ayon sa pagkakasunod-sunod; . . . at karaniwan na, mahirap matukoy kung sino talaga ang nagsasalita.” (The Revelation of John, Tomo 2, Revised Edition, pahina 223) Kaya masasabi nating ang “Alpha at ang Omega” sa You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. ang siya ring tinutukoy sa iba pang bahagi ng Apocalipsis—ang Diyos na Jehova.

 

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ah jehova ka pala

 

[Gentleman007]

ah jehova ka pala

Nasa bible yan.. kung may bible ka makikita mo yan sir

 

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Nasa bible yan.. kung may bible ka makikita mo yan sir

The trinity as per bible testimony is true. Meanwhile, you are quoting some articles that alledgely support your claim without fully quoting or stressing what those articles really say. Later I will expose your misconceptions and why your doctrine is erroneous.

 

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The trinity as per bible testimony is true. Meanwhile, you are quoting some articles that alledgely support your claim without fully quoting or stressing what those articles really say. Later I will expose your misconceptions and why your doctrine is erroneous.

Ok... pwede pakisagot po lahat ito..


If Jesus is Almighty God...

1. Then why is "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. just as Christ is head of man"? (1 Cor. 11:3)

2. Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (John 20:17; John 14:1; Mark 10:18; John 17:1-3; etc. Also in heaven, 1 Cor. 11:3; Luke 22:69; etc.)

3. Then how can Jesus You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? Could Almighty God have a God? (Mic. 5:4; Ps. 45:6, 7; 89:26; John 20:17; Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3; Eph 1:3; Col 1:3; Mark 15:34; John 17:1-3; Also in heaven, Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12)

4. Then why does Scripture say he was You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Col. 1:15)

5. Then why does You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. say that Jesus is "the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. of God"?

6. Then why is he subject to GOD, like we're subject to him? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28; Eph. 1:17)

7. Then why does Micah 5:2 say that Jesus' You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. was “from early times”?

8. Then why does Jesus You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Matt. 24:36, Rev.1:1; Luke 8:45)

9. Then why is Jesus still subject to God when he is as high as he will ever be? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28)

10. Then why does Proverbs 8:22-31 show that the Messiah was You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. by God?

11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1 Cor. 15:27, Eph. 1:17, 22)

12. Then why would he have to be given any power and authority? (Mt. 28:18; 11:27; Jn. 5:22; 17:2; 3:35; 2 Pet. 1:17)

13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Heb. 5:8; John 5:19; 8:28)

14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Mt. 12:31,32; Luke 12:10)

15. Then why did Jesus call the "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now."? (John 17:3)

16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Heb. 5:7; John 12:27)

17. Then why did he have to be exalted to Leader and Savior? (Acts 5:31)

18. Then how could he be exalted and given a higher name than he had? (Phil. 2:9-11; Heb. 1:2-4)

19. Then why did he have to be given life in himself? (John 5:25,26)

20. Then how can the Father be greater than he? (John 14:28)

21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan when God cannot be tempted with evil? (James 1:13)

22. Then why did he worship the Father? (John 4:22)

23. Then why can he You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (John 5:19; 6:38)

24. Then why would he pray to anybody? (Luke 22:44; John 17:1,2; Heb. 5:7)

25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1 John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now."? ASV

26. Then how can he be God's servant? (Acts 4:26,27,30)

27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)

28. Then how could he be a mediator between God and man? (1 Tim. 2:5)

29. Then how could he be You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)

30. Then how can he be You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Col. 1:15; Heb. 1:3)

31. Then why is he called the agency (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) of creation and not the Originator (ek)? (1 Cor. 8:6; John 1:1-3; Prov. 8:30; Heb. 2:10; Col. 1:15,16)

32. Then why did Jesus say GOD was "good" in a way that Jesus was not? (Mark 10:18)

33. Then why does he have an You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.'s voice instead of God's voice? (1 Thess. 4:16)

34. Then why is the only "worship" given to him the same given to humans? (Heb. 1:6, cf. Mt. 18:26; Rev. 3:9 - "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.")

35. Then why do many who believe this rely on a few selected, so-called 'You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.' instead of the context of the consistent teaching of the entire Bible?

36. Then how could he be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49; Deut. 18:18)

37. Then why did Steven see two separate entities, GOD and Jesus, and not just one God or three persons? (Acts 7:55)

38. Then how could he be seen at You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Luke 22:69; Acts 7:55; Rom. 8:34)

39. Then how could Jesus be exalted (not to become God Himself, but) to the position of the "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now."? (Acts 2:33)

40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God? (Rev.1:1)

41. Then why is he called God's "begotten" Son before he came to earth? (John 3:16; Gal. 4:4; 1 John 4:9)

42. Then how could he have a You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (John 20:17)

43. Then how could he come in flesh? (1 Kings 8:27; Acts 17:24,25)

44. Then why did he not come in his own name? (John 5:41-44)

45. Then why did Jesus "come down from heaven to do" God's will and not his own will? (Luke 22:42; John 6:38; John 5:30; John 8:42)

46. Then how could he appear before GOD? (Heb. 9:24)

47. Then how could he die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Rom. 5:10; Acts 5:30; 1 Cor. 15:3; Hab.1:12; cf. 1 Tim. 6:16; Num. 23:19; Ps. 90:2; Dan. 6:25-26)

48. Then why is it that God resurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32)

49. Then why can we see him if "no man has seen God at any time"? (John 1:18)

50. Then why is there You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. where Jesus is called "God the Son," (equal to those declaring "God, the Father)?

51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but neither the Jewish officials nor even one of these false witnesses made a claim that he was God or equally God? (Matt. 26:59-67)

52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe "that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God." Why is there is no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the most important thing of all - that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)

53. How could Jesus teach in the Jewish synagogues and the temple? This would never happen if any of the authorities believed he claimed to be God (or that his followers believed such a thing). - Matt. 26:55; John 7:14, 28. Matt. 4:23.

54. How could Jesus' followers teach in Jewish synagogues after Jesus' death and for the remainder of that first century (at least)? Again, this would not have been allowed if there were any suspicion that they believed Jesus to be God. Acts 9:20; 13:5, Acts 13:13-15.


If the Holy Spirit is Almighty God...

1. Then why do You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. from Trinitarians admit that the Holy Spirit is not God but rather is a force from God?

2. Then why would Jews instructed in the Old Testament scriptures and in the teachings of John the Baptist, NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS? (Acts 19:2)

3. Then why isn't the Holy Spirit given You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. in the Bible?

4. Then why didn't Jesus ever You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. along with the Father and Son?

5. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. (Is. 34:16 ASV, KJV; Numbers 11:17, 25 ASV, KJV, RSV, NRSV, AT, LB, NEB, REB, NAB, JB, NJB; and Romans 8:16, 26 in the KJV.)

6. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit as a thing You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Acts 2:17, 18, 33; Numbers 11:17, 25)

7. Then why is the holy spirit You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

8. Then why did the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD disregard the Holy Spirit as a member of the Godhead when they made Jesus 'God' in 325 AD? Why did they wait until the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD to include the Holy Spirit in the formula?

9. Then wouldn't the water and blood be persons too You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

10. Then why is the Holy Spirit sandwiched You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

11. Then why does the NT Greek Lexicon describes the Holy Spirit as "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now." at Acts 2:33?

12. Then why is it that nowhere in the Bible is the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. ever said to be an equal member of a trinity?

13. Then why is it that You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. in the Bible the words, "God, the Holy Spirit," or "The Holy Spirit is God"?

14. Then why is it that there is You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. a vision, dream or clear description in scripture wherein God and the Holy Spirit are shown as the same person?

If the Trinity Doctrine is a Bible teaching...

1. Then why do You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. agree that

"... the doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; that it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian scriptures; that it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity"? – p. 34, The Church of the First Three Centuries, Alvan Lamson, D.D.

2. Then why do many encyclopedias, dictionaries and other sources(You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) agree that the "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. in the fourth century by Athanasius"?

3. Then why does the Bible You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. identify God by singular person pronouns: "I, "Me," "He, and "Him" instead of "We", "Us", "They" or "Them"?

4. Then why does 2 Cor. 13:14 say that the Lord Jesus Christ is one individual, the Holy Spirit is another individual (whether a person or a thing), and that You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

5. Then why is there not even one Scripture You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

6. Then why is there not even one Scripture of a vision, dream, or CLEAR description wherein You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

7. Then why is there not even one Scripture where God is described You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

 

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If Jesus is Almighty God...

1. Then why is "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. just as Christ is head of man"? (1 Cor. 11:3)

2. Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (John 20:17; John 14:1; Mark 10:18; John 17:1-3; etc. Also in heaven, 1 Cor. 11:3; Luke 22:69; etc.)

3. Then how can Jesus You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? Could Almighty God have a God? (Mic. 5:4; Ps. 45:6, 7; 89:26; John 20:17; Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3; Eph 1:3; Col 1:3; Mark 15:34; John 17:1-3; Also in heaven, Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12)

4. Then why does Scripture say he was You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Col. 1:15)

5. Then why does You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. say that Jesus is "the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. of God"?

6. Then why is he subject to GOD, like we're subject to him? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28; Eph. 1:17)

7. Then why does Micah 5:2 say that Jesus' You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. was “from early times”?

8. Then why does Jesus You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Matt. 24:36, Rev.1:1; Luke 8:45)

9. Then why is Jesus still subject to God when he is as high as he will ever be? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28)

10. Then why does Proverbs 8:22-31 show that the Messiah was You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. by God?

11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1 Cor. 15:27, Eph. 1:17, 22)

12. Then why would he have to be given any power and authority? (Mt. 28:18; 11:27; Jn. 5:22; 17:2; 3:35; 2 Pet. 1:17)

13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Heb. 5:8; John 5:19; 8:28)

14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Mt. 12:31,32; Luke 12:10)

15. Then why did Jesus call the "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now."? (John 17:3)

16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Heb. 5:7; John 12:27)

17. Then why did he have to be exalted to Leader and Savior? (Acts 5:31)

18. Then how could he be exalted and given a higher name than he had? (Phil. 2:9-11; Heb. 1:2-4)

19. Then why did he have to be given life in himself? (John 5:25,26)

20. Then how can the Father be greater than he? (John 14:28)

21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan when God cannot be tempted with evil? (James 1:13)

22. Then why did he worship the Father? (John 4:22)

23. Then why can he You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (John 5:19; 6:38)

24. Then why would he pray to anybody? (Luke 22:44; John 17:1,2; Heb. 5:7)

25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1 John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now."? ASV

26. Then how can he be God's servant? (Acts 4:26,27,30)

27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)

28. Then how could he be a mediator between God and man? (1 Tim. 2:5)

29. Then how could he be You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)

30. Then how can he be You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Col. 1:15; Heb. 1:3)

31. Then why is he called the agency (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) of creation and not the Originator (ek)? (1 Cor. 8:6; John 1:1-3; Prov. 8:30; Heb. 2:10; Col. 1:15,16)

32. Then why did Jesus say GOD was "good" in a way that Jesus was not? (Mark 10:18)

33. Then why does he have an You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.'s voice instead of God's voice? (1 Thess. 4:16)

34. Then why is the only "worship" given to him the same given to humans? (Heb. 1:6, cf. Mt. 18:26; Rev. 3:9 - "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.")

35. Then why do many who believe this rely on a few selected, so-called 'You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.' instead of the context of the consistent teaching of the entire Bible?

36. Then how could he be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49; Deut. 18:18)

37. Then why did Steven see two separate entities, GOD and Jesus, and not just one God or three persons? (Acts 7:55)

38. Then how could he be seen at You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Luke 22:69; Acts 7:55; Rom. 8:34)

39. Then how could Jesus be exalted (not to become God Himself, but) to the position of the "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now."? (Acts 2:33)

40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God? (Rev.1:1)

41. Then why is he called God's "begotten" Son before he came to earth? (John 3:16; Gal. 4:4; 1 John 4:9)

42. Then how could he have a You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (John 20:17)

43. Then how could he come in flesh? (1 Kings 8:27; Acts 17:24,25)

44. Then why did he not come in his own name? (John 5:41-44)

45. Then why did Jesus "come down from heaven to do" God's will and not his own will? (Luke 22:42; John 6:38; John 5:30; John 8:42)

46. Then how could he appear before GOD? (Heb. 9:24)

47. Then how could he die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Rom. 5:10; Acts 5:30; 1 Cor. 15:3; Hab.1:12; cf. 1 Tim. 6:16; Num. 23:19; Ps. 90:2; Dan. 6:25-26)

48. Then why is it that God resurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32)

49. Then why can we see him if "no man has seen God at any time"? (John 1:18)

50. Then why is there You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. where Jesus is called "God the Son," (equal to those declaring "God, the Father)?

51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but neither the Jewish officials nor even one of these false witnesses made a claim that he was God or equally God? (Matt. 26:59-67)

52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe "that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God." Why is there is no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the most important thing of all - that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)

53. How could Jesus teach in the Jewish synagogues and the temple? This would never happen if any of the authorities believed he claimed to be God (or that his followers believed such a thing). - Matt. 26:55; John 7:14, 28. Matt. 4:23.

54. How could Jesus' followers teach in Jewish synagogues after Jesus' death and for the remainder of that first century (at least)? Again, this would not have been allowed if there were any suspicion that they believed Jesus to be God. Acts 9:20; 13:5, Acts 13:13-15.


If the Holy Spirit is Almighty God...

1. Then why do You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. from Trinitarians admit that the Holy Spirit is not God but rather is a force from God?

2. Then why would Jews instructed in the Old Testament scriptures and in the teachings of John the Baptist, NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS? (Acts 19:2)

3. Then why isn't the Holy Spirit given You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. in the Bible?

4. Then why didn't Jesus ever You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. along with the Father and Son?

5. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. (Is. 34:16 ASV, KJV; Numbers 11:17, 25 ASV, KJV, RSV, NRSV, AT, LB, NEB, REB, NAB, JB, NJB; and Romans 8:16, 26 in the KJV.)

6. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit as a thing You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Acts 2:17, 18, 33; Numbers 11:17, 25)

7. Then why is the holy spirit You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

8. Then why did the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD disregard the Holy Spirit as a member of the Godhead when they made Jesus 'God' in 325 AD? Why did they wait until the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD to include the Holy Spirit in the formula?

9. Then wouldn't the water and blood be persons too You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

10. Then why is the Holy Spirit sandwiched You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

11. Then why does the NT Greek Lexicon describes the Holy Spirit as "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now." at Acts 2:33?

12. Then why is it that nowhere in the Bible is the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. ever said to be an equal member of a trinity?

13. Then why is it that You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. in the Bible the words, "God, the Holy Spirit," or "The Holy Spirit is God"?

14. Then why is it that there is You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. a vision, dream or clear description in scripture wherein God and the Holy Spirit are shown as the same person?

If the Trinity Doctrine is a Bible teaching...

1. Then why do You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. agree that

"... the doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; that it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian scriptures; that it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity"? – p. 34, The Church of the First Three Centuries, Alvan Lamson, D.D.

2. Then why do many encyclopedias, dictionaries and other sources(You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) agree that the "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. in the fourth century by Athanasius"?

3. Then why does the Bible You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. identify God by singular person pronouns: "I, "Me," "He, and "Him" instead of "We", "Us", "They" or "Them"?

4. Then why does 2 Cor. 13:14 say that the Lord Jesus Christ is one individual, the Holy Spirit is another individual (whether a person or a thing), and that You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

5. Then why is there not even one Scripture You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

6. Then why is there not even one Scripture of a vision, dream, or CLEAR description wherein You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

7. Then why is there not even one Scripture where God is described You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

Wait for my resonses ok?if.not today.
Later not tomorrow but later..due to the inadequacy of.my smartphone to type, bolden, quote things. Ngaun lang na.naman nakapasok sa phcorner due to busy schedule. Most of your claims are rhetorical, techmocally enept and misquotes aside from the fact that the Bible 'translations' you are adopting is questionable.

Why do i.know your erroneous and misconceptions deeply?coz i was a former Jehovah's Witness. When I was in high.school through college, more knowledge enlightened.me. Your bible quotes and off- bible quotea are.misleading including your unsubstantiated rhetorics.

 

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If Jesus is Almighty God...

1. Then why is "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. just as Christ is head of man"? (1 Cor. 11:3)

2. Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (John 20:17; John 14:1; Mark 10:18; John 17:1-3; etc. Also in heaven, 1 Cor. 11:3; Luke 22:69; etc.)

3. Then how can Jesus You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? Could Almighty God have a God? (Mic. 5:4; Ps. 45:6, 7; 89:26; John 20:17; Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3; Eph 1:3; Col 1:3; Mark 15:34; John 17:1-3; Also in heaven, Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12)

4. Then why does Scripture say he was You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Col. 1:15)

5. Then why does You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. say that Jesus is "the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. of God"?

6. Then why is he subject to GOD, like we're subject to him? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28; Eph. 1:17)

7. Then why does Micah 5:2 say that Jesus' You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. was “from early times”?

8. Then why does Jesus You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Matt. 24:36, Rev.1:1; Luke 8:45)

9. Then why is Jesus still subject to God when he is as high as he will ever be? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28)

10. Then why does Proverbs 8:22-31 show that the Messiah was You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. by God?

11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1 Cor. 15:27, Eph. 1:17, 22)

12. Then why would he have to be given any power and authority? (Mt. 28:18; 11:27; Jn. 5:22; 17:2; 3:35; 2 Pet. 1:17)

13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Heb. 5:8; John 5:19; 8:28)

14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Mt. 12:31,32; Luke 12:10)

15. Then why did Jesus call the "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now."? (John 17:3)

16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Heb. 5:7; John 12:27)

17. Then why did he have to be exalted to Leader and Savior? (Acts 5:31)

18. Then how could he be exalted and given a higher name than he had? (Phil. 2:9-11; Heb. 1:2-4)

19. Then why did he have to be given life in himself? (John 5:25,26)

20. Then how can the Father be greater than he? (John 14:28)

21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan when God cannot be tempted with evil? (James 1:13)

22. Then why did he worship the Father? (John 4:22)

23. Then why can he You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (John 5:19; 6:38)

24. Then why would he pray to anybody? (Luke 22:44; John 17:1,2; Heb. 5:7)

25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1 John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now."? ASV

26. Then how can he be God's servant? (Acts 4:26,27,30)

27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)

28. Then how could he be a mediator between God and man? (1 Tim. 2:5)

29. Then how could he be You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)

30. Then how can he be You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Col. 1:15; Heb. 1:3)

31. Then why is he called the agency (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) of creation and not the Originator (ek)? (1 Cor. 8:6; John 1:1-3; Prov. 8:30; Heb. 2:10; Col. 1:15,16)

32. Then why did Jesus say GOD was "good" in a way that Jesus was not? (Mark 10:18)

33. Then why does he have an You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.'s voice instead of God's voice? (1 Thess. 4:16)

34. Then why is the only "worship" given to him the same given to humans? (Heb. 1:6, cf. Mt. 18:26; Rev. 3:9 - "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.")

35. Then why do many who believe this rely on a few selected, so-called 'You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.' instead of the context of the consistent teaching of the entire Bible?

36. Then how could he be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49; Deut. 18:18)

37. Then why did Steven see two separate entities, GOD and Jesus, and not just one God or three persons? (Acts 7:55)

38. Then how could he be seen at You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Luke 22:69; Acts 7:55; Rom. 8:34)

39. Then how could Jesus be exalted (not to become God Himself, but) to the position of the "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now."? (Acts 2:33)

40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God? (Rev.1:1)

41. Then why is he called God's "begotten" Son before he came to earth? (John 3:16; Gal. 4:4; 1 John 4:9)

42. Then how could he have a You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (John 20:17)

43. Then how could he come in flesh? (1 Kings 8:27; Acts 17:24,25)

44. Then why did he not come in his own name? (John 5:41-44)

45. Then why did Jesus "come down from heaven to do" God's will and not his own will? (Luke 22:42; John 6:38; John 5:30; John 8:42)

46. Then how could he appear before GOD? (Heb. 9:24)

47. Then how could he die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Rom. 5:10; Acts 5:30; 1 Cor. 15:3; Hab.1:12; cf. 1 Tim. 6:16; Num. 23:19; Ps. 90:2; Dan. 6:25-26)

48. Then why is it that God resurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32)

49. Then why can we see him if "no man has seen God at any time"? (John 1:18)

50. Then why is there You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. where Jesus is called "God the Son," (equal to those declaring "God, the Father)?

51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but neither the Jewish officials nor even one of these false witnesses made a claim that he was God or equally God? (Matt. 26:59-67)

52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe "that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God." Why is there is no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the most important thing of all - that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)

53. How could Jesus teach in the Jewish synagogues and the temple? This would never happen if any of the authorities believed he claimed to be God (or that his followers believed such a thing). - Matt. 26:55; John 7:14, 28. Matt. 4:23.

54. How could Jesus' followers teach in Jewish synagogues after Jesus' death and for the remainder of that first century (at least)? Again, this would not have been allowed if there were any suspicion that they believed Jesus to be God. Acts 9:20; 13:5, Acts 13:13-15.


If the Holy Spirit is Almighty God...

1. Then why do You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. from Trinitarians admit that the Holy Spirit is not God but rather is a force from God?

2. Then why would Jews instructed in the Old Testament scriptures and in the teachings of John the Baptist, NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS? (Acts 19:2)

3. Then why isn't the Holy Spirit given You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. in the Bible?

4. Then why didn't Jesus ever You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. along with the Father and Son?

5. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. (Is. 34:16 ASV, KJV; Numbers 11:17, 25 ASV, KJV, RSV, NRSV, AT, LB, NEB, REB, NAB, JB, NJB; and Romans 8:16, 26 in the KJV.)

6. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit as a thing You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.? (Acts 2:17, 18, 33; Numbers 11:17, 25)

7. Then why is the holy spirit You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

8. Then why did the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD disregard the Holy Spirit as a member of the Godhead when they made Jesus 'God' in 325 AD? Why did they wait until the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD to include the Holy Spirit in the formula?

9. Then wouldn't the water and blood be persons too You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

10. Then why is the Holy Spirit sandwiched You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

11. Then why does the NT Greek Lexicon describes the Holy Spirit as "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now." at Acts 2:33?

12. Then why is it that nowhere in the Bible is the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. ever said to be an equal member of a trinity?

13. Then why is it that You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. in the Bible the words, "God, the Holy Spirit," or "The Holy Spirit is God"?

14. Then why is it that there is You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. a vision, dream or clear description in scripture wherein God and the Holy Spirit are shown as the same person?

If the Trinity Doctrine is a Bible teaching...

1. Then why do You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. agree that

"... the doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; that it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian scriptures; that it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity"? – p. 34, The Church of the First Three Centuries, Alvan Lamson, D.D.

2. Then why do many encyclopedias, dictionaries and other sources(You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) agree that the "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. in the fourth century by Athanasius"?

3. Then why does the Bible You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. identify God by singular person pronouns: "I, "Me," "He, and "Him" instead of "We", "Us", "They" or "Them"?

4. Then why does 2 Cor. 13:14 say that the Lord Jesus Christ is one individual, the Holy Spirit is another individual (whether a person or a thing), and that You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

5. Then why is there not even one Scripture You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

6. Then why is there not even one Scripture of a vision, dream, or CLEAR description wherein You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

7. Then why is there not even one Scripture where God is described You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.?

Expect me this week to respond or address your claims.above.

 

[Gentleman007]

Expect me this week to respond or address your claims.above.

Ok.

 

[rcn29]

member ka pala ni charles russell, kung ako sa'yo ts. maghanap ka ng closest version ng original manuscript ng bible. dun mo maihahambing ang mga binago at dinagdag na talata at libro sa bersyon ng ginagamit mong biblia. mahirap tayong magpanama kung ikaw mismo ay nakabatay lamang sa iisang bersiyon ng biblia na binaluktot ang mga talata. peace ts

 

[low-key]

Nasa bible yan.. kung may bible ka makikita mo yan sir

wala sa scripture yan