Closed Pa help fearing god(as usual for christians only)

[low-key]

1st things first i'm not discriminating or something i just want an answer from fellow christians

pahingi po ako ng facts from bible para matakot ako sa diyos kasi po mahirap ang no fear feeling sa diyos(only ashamed{cause of sin} and proud{cause of christ no condemnation}) i end up doing the wrong things

 

[XxLUCYxX]

https://m.YøùTùbé.com/watch?v=CdMNIiMp8yg panoorin mo ts . Marerealized mo kung anu man yun nagagawa mong mali sa buhay .. palitan mo nalang yun spelling ng yt.

 

[ravage]

Hindi facts from the bible ang ibibigay ko sayo but some points to ponder.
Fear in God comes with faith in God.
If you don't fear God then you have no faith in God.
To question his authority and reject what is written in the bible means you believe in yourself and not in God.
That being said... if you believe in yourself and not in God then you will not fear God.

 

[etchos_30]

the admin is right, if you don't believed then anything explanations are nonsense.

 

[low-key]

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. panoorin mo ts . Marerealized mo kung anu man yun nagagawa mong mali sa buhay .. palitan mo nalang yun spelling ng yt.

teka boss angelica zombrano parang ito yung babae na nagbigay ng testimony and then tumanggap ng pera pinalago ang kanyang church i don't think i can believe her she recieved money eh

 

[ravage]

"pahingi po ako ng facts from bible para matakot ako sa diyos kasi po mahirap ang no fear feeling sa diyos(only ashamed{cause of sin} and proud{cause of christ no condemnation}) i end up doing the wrong things"
Tell us your story Proverbs3
Hindi ka natatakot sa Diyos?
May na-murder ka na ba?
May ni-rape ka na ba?
Or may ginawa ka na ba na karumal-dumal and yet ginawa mo yun dahil hindi ka takot sa Diyos?

Or maybe you are just confused sa mga nilalamang verses nyang Proverbs 3.

 

[low-key]

"pahingi po ako ng facts from bible para matakot ako sa diyos kasi po mahirap ang no fear feeling sa diyos(only ashamed{cause of sin} and proud{cause of christ no condemnation}) i end up doing the wrong things"
Tell us your story Proverbs3
Hindi ka natatakot sa Diyos?
May na-murder ka na ba?
May ni-rape ka na ba?
Or may ginawa ka na ba na karumal-dumal and yet ginawa mo yun dahil hindi ka takot sa Diyos?

Or maybe you are just confused sa mga nilalamang verses nyang Proverbs 3.

kaya proverbs3 para iremind ako kung ano ano mga naka sulat dun sa proverbs3 and baka narin makatulong sa makakakita

grabe naman yang pinaglalagay mo boss rape then slay?

ang napapatay ko palang ay maraming langgam daga ipis wala pang matinong hayop at tao pano ko nga ba sisimulan ang kwento ko nung june/july ata yun na i felt na gusto ko ng mawala nalang everyday na nakakaranas ako ng depression yung sobra sobra na pagod kana i want to die but i can't eh the only thing i'm holding is the word of God and then i snap sabi ko wala na akong paki help me kahit sino desperado kasi tanggalin niyo tong depression sa pakiramdam ko then told myself ma kalimutan ko na lahat kahit maraming nag flaflashback sunod sunod then na dedepressed ulit ako then after nun hindi ko alam exact date siguro august kasi ngayon ko lang napansin hindi ako takot sa diyos kasi nga paulit ulit akong gumagawa ng kasalanan

after nun nawala yung feelings ko paramg manhid kumbaga pero syempre nakakaramdam ako ng pain but not love mor fear and then paramg lifeless gumawa ulit ako ng kasalanan paulit ulit but siguro nung april/may/june >> https://phcorner.net/threads/597571/ na realized ko to another topic

hindi ko matandaan siguro hindi lang june ang start ng no fear sa diyos siguro sa simula palang hindi ko maisip kung paano bakit hindi ko ba maramdaman

sensya hindi ko alam saan ako mag sisimula pero simulan natin sa natatandaan ko at sabihin ko nalang lahat dati mga nakakatakot napapanaginipan ko puro multo(nakaka kita rin ako ng weird things but not whole thing partial lang anino, tela, usok nakakarinig din ako ng weird things) simula pagka bata and then napatunayan ko na hindi sila tao kundi malamang demonyo and then hindi na ako nananaginip ng masama or pangit hindi narin ako nakakakita o nakakarinig

hindi ko matandaan kailan ako nag simulang manampalataya sa diyos except nung bata ako dahil nung bata ako catholic ako ang akala ko yung rebulto ay si jesus siguro nagsimula lahat nung na high blood mom ko and nag collapse and it was all my fault grabe nag reregret parin ako till now ang daming taon na nangyari my aunt advice me to pray though i don't really believe in god that time but i did pray anyway everynight a repetition of prayer God please increase the life of my mom everynight ganito lagi but at first hindi ko malaman sabi ko parang niloloko ko lang sarili ko when i started to pray about 8 years ago ito and then siguro after 2-3yrs since hindi ako nagbabasa ng bible hindi ko talaga alam dun ko palang nalaman na mali pala ginawa ko hindi pala ako dapat nag dasal ng paulit ulit ng ganun and isang beses ko lang pala dapat sabihin and it shall be done but then i started to cursed nahihiya akong sabihin anong sinabi ko pero sa isip ko lang siya sinabi then to counter that curse i said the opposite thing sa isip ko rin sinabi crap parang nabaliw ako nuon dahil paulit ulit yun curse>counter>curse>counter ulit ulit yun sakit sa ulo hindi ko mean mag curse but i still did it in my mind lang then a year past or couple niyaya ako ng cousin ko naparang nabaliw din sa bible yun kasi ang sabi niya ngayong 2018 na baliw daw ata siya kada may nakakasalubong siyang kilala niya nag sheshare siya ng verse pero yun sinama niya ako sa church nila but didn't worked out dahil sa sinabi ng pastora "hindi kita pinipilit pero hanggang ngayon mo nalang siya pwedeng tanggapin" i replied ngayon nalang? "oo ngayon nalang wala ng bukas" then i took it the next sunday hindi na ako nag attend tapos... hindi ko na maalala siguro after few days maalala ko ulit

pero ngayong iniisip ko siya at dahil iniisip ko to nakalimutan ko ano susunod iniisip ko na if takot talaga ako sa kanya bakit pasaway ako hindi ko alam kung pano ko siya katatakatakutan ayaw ko rin matakot kay kristo but okay lang sa kanyang ama but i end up hindi on both hindi ko alam kung pano

now if you said yung That being said... if you believe in yourself and not in God then you will not fear God.

now i questioned myself but no answer did i ever have faith in him?

 

[low-key]

"pahingi po ako ng facts from bible para matakot ako sa diyos kasi po mahirap ang no fear feeling sa diyos(only ashamed{cause of sin} and proud{cause of christ no condemnation}) i end up doing the wrong things"
Tell us your story Proverbs3
Hindi ka natatakot sa Diyos?
May na-murder ka na ba?
May ni-rape ka na ba?
Or may ginawa ka na ba na karumal-dumal and yet ginawa mo yun dahil hindi ka takot sa Diyos?

Or maybe you are just confused sa mga nilalamang verses nyang Proverbs 3.

teka admin diba bawal adu*t thingy but okay pasintabi i add ko lang wala pang rape but i did commit adultery for sure most of us did

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

and i did think doing this pluck it out x.x but i'm a coward i can't cut my thing nor pluck my eyes
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not thatthy whole body should be cast into hell.

 

[low-key]

easy for me to follow your rules but how come i can't follow HIS rules how do i get out of this cage *sigh

 

[ravage]

Wag ka sana ma-offend sa akin Proverbs3 sa mga sasabihin ko... direct akong magsalita at minsan kahit lampas na at maaring makasakit ng damdamin pero diretso parin ako, I say what I have to say when I meant what I say.
And please b3ar with me dahil medyo lengthy ito.
Depression: sabi ng mga psychologist at psychiatrist, yan daw ay nagmumula sa pinagdadaanan na problema na madalas ay hindi makayanan. True... when we worry too much then it tends to happen. Ilang ulit nangyari sayo?
First thing's first, have you seeked professional help about it?

At this point gagamit na ako ng Salita... then you can tell for yourself kung may faith ka nga kahit gatiting or wala.
Surely you worried too much to the point na probably ay nag-breakdown ka na to depression. When we worry too much then it means we don't trust God.
Mathew 6:25-27
25Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.27Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his lifespan?…

We worry dahil sa tingin natin ay di sapat ang effort natin and that only our effort can make us live. So we trust in ourselves more than we trust God. And when we fail we tend blame ourselves or push more on ourselves to do better.
"I have be stronger, better wiser, work harder ... etc."
Always "I", what about asking God for a little help?

Anong particular na verse ka moved dyan sa Proverbs 3?

 

[ravage]

Proverbs3 maybe you worry too much dahil yang nakasulat sa Proverbs 3 ay hindi mo masunod. Bumabagsak sa temptasyon at nagkakasala. You feel bad about it... we should. But then again if you truly knew Christ and his passion then ma-accept mo na hindi mo kayang tuparin lahat yan. To think na sa panahon ni Adan at Eva, isa lang ang utos sa Edenic covenant nila. Hindi pa nasunod. Ngayon pa kaya.
Kung kaya tuparin ng tao ang lahat na pinag-uutos ng Diyos then perpekto na ang tao. This I say na mas mabuti kung hindi. Diyos lang ang perpekto, at kung perpekto ka then diyos ka na rin at kung diyos ka na rin then hindi mo na kelangan ang Diyos, paano ka maililigtas ng Diyos kung hindi mo kelangan ang Diyos?
Yan ang tunay na misteryo kung bakit dumating si Kristo, dahil nga hindi natin kaya.

Gusto mo ba maging perpekto? May way ako na nabasa dito:
Mathew 19:16-21
The Rich Young Man
16 You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.And behold, a man came up to him, saying, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.have You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.eternal life?” You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.If you would enter life, keep the commandments.” You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.“You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not s†éál, You shall not bear false witness, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.“All these I have kept. What do I still lack?” “If you would be You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.perfect, go, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

Kung gusto mo ituloy mo pa ang pagbasa hanggang verse 30
You want to fear God? Learn how to love God first and have faith, the fear will come later.

Lastly I say to you: Mahal ka ng Diyos kahit ano ka, even if you are not perfect... trabaho na yan ni Cristo, wag mo sanang alisan sya ng role sa buhay mo. You have to accept Him.

 

[ravage]

teka admin diba bawal adu*t thingy but okay pasintabi i add ko lang wala pang rape but i did commit adultery for sure most of us did

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

and i did think doing this pluck it out x.x but i'm a coward i can't cut my thing nor pluck my eyes
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not thatthy whole body should be cast into hell.

I'm please to see you are well versed, pero napapansin ko you tend to overdo it.
Relax ka lang dyan... may Jesu-Cristo tayo.
Recall mo ang 7 last words. Sino ang kauna-unahang tao na naka-akyat sa langit? Diba si Dimas, isang magnanakaw. All his life eh magnanakaw sya. Ni hindi na nga sya nagkaroon ng pagkakataon na ituwid ang kamalian nya, but he felt the guilt, he repented and accepted Christ and that's all it took.

 

[ravage]

Kung di pa sapat ang explanation ko and you still feel very, very bad na nagkakasala ka maybe araw-araw or perhaps oras-oras ng buhay mo then I'd say bumalik ka sa katoliko, araw-araw pwede ka mangumpisal sa pari at maghugas ng iyong kasalanan. That is if it really matters so much to you.

 

[low-key]

Wag ka sana ma-offend sa akin Proverbs3 sa mga sasabihin ko... direct akong magsalita at minsan kahit lampas na at maaring makasakit ng damdamin pero diretso parin ako, I say what I have to say when I meant what I say.
And please b3ar with me dahil medyo lengthy ito.
Depression: sabi ng mga psychologist at psychiatrist, yan daw ay nagmumula sa pinagdadaanan na problema na madalas ay hindi makayanan. True... when we worry too much then it tends to happen. Ilang ulit nangyari sayo?
First thing's first, have you seeked professional help about it?

At this point gagamit na ako ng Salita... then you can tell for yourself kung may faith ka nga kahit gatiting or wala.
Surely you worried too much to the point na probably ay nag-breakdown ka na to depression. When we worry too much then it means we don't trust God.
Mathew 6:25-27
25Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.27Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his lifespan?…

We worry dahil sa tingin natin ay di sapat ang effort natin and that only our effort can make us live. So we trust in ourselves more than we trust God. And when we fail we tend blame ourselves or push more on ourselves to do better.
"I have be stronger, better wiser, work harder ... etc."
Always "I", what about asking God for a little help?

Anong particular na verse ka moved dyan sa Proverbs 3?

countless times di ko mabilang
professional? only christ walang nakaka alam nitong problema ay teka oo wala nakaka alam kundi mga hindi ko kilala tulad mo admin at syempre si christ and God and those kalaban natin

ya maybe at that time wala na akong maisip kundi yung problema eventually i let that problema go when i found new solution but what i thought a solution turns out to be another problem so yun nanaman yun yung last started siguro july till august wala na cause nakita ko na talaga yung solution tapos may problema nanaman ako ito nga fear

and yup yan nga yung nahanap ko na solution sa problema ko matthew 6-7 funny thing is nasabi ko na rin ito sa iba though in a different way
We worry dahil sa tingin natin ay di sapat ang effort natin and that only our effort can make us live. So we trust in ourselves more than we trust God.

parang indifferent ako ngayon hindi ko malaman kung bakit pero pinipilit kong hindi maging indifferent pero wala effect

mostly lahat sa proverbs3 pag ka naalala ko and nag breabreached ako ng something ipapaalala ko at babasahin ulit

 

[low-key]

nga pala boss reminder ang proverbs3 sakin i know naman hindi ko magagawa lahat but just a reminder talaga siya

and parang hindi naman nakaka offend yun sinabi mo admin

 

[low-key]

Proverbs3 maybe you worry too much dahil yang nakasulat sa Proverbs 3 ay hindi mo masunod. Bumabagsak sa temptasyon at nagkakasala. You feel bad about it... we should. But then again if you truly knew Christ and his passion then ma-accept mo na hindi mo kayang tuparin lahat yan. To think na sa panahon ni Adan at Eva, isa lang ang utos sa Edenic covenant nila. Hindi pa nasunod. Ngayon pa kaya.
Kung kaya tuparin ng tao ang lahat na pinag-uutos ng Diyos then perpekto na ang tao. This I say na mas mabuti kung hindi. Diyos lang ang perpekto, at kung perpekto ka then diyos ka na rin at kung diyos ka na rin then hindi mo na kelangan ang Diyos, paano ka maililigtas ng Diyos kung hindi mo kelangan ang Diyos?
Yan ang tunay na misteryo kung bakit dumating si Kristo, dahil nga hindi natin kaya.

Gusto mo ba maging perpekto? May way ako na nabasa dito:
Mathew 19:16-21
The Rich Young Man
16 You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.And behold, a man came up to him, saying, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.have You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.eternal life?” You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.If you would enter life, keep the commandments.” You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.“You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not s†éál, You shall not **** false witness, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.“All these I have kept. What do I still lack?” “If you would be You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.perfect, go, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

Kung gusto mo ituloy mo pa ang pagbasa hanggang verse 30
You want to fear God? Learn how to love God first and have faith, the fear will come later.

Lastly I say to you: Mahal ka ng Diyos kahit ano ka, even if you are not perfect... trabaho na yan ni Cristo, wag mo sanang alisan sya ng role sa buhay mo. You have to accept Him.

ulitin natin boss baka ma miss mu yung latest reply ko proverbs3 is to remind me things wala man akong favorite verse pero ng nabasa ko to napa amaze ako wow bawat verse meaningful and everything in it is Good

ya boss now medyo nakaka offend nga yan pero okay lang mas okay nga yan ang pinunta ko dito kaya christians only kasi pag atheist nag reply anong mapapala namin na parang sinabi ko na established only ano mapapala ng non-established edi wala

pero before ewan ko lang if still now parang yung act ko or yung ginagawa ko parang gusto ng perfection ah ou natatandaan kuna iniisip ko ano magiging future ko sa mga susunod na araw yeah must plan a perfect plan for sure kayo din ginawa niyo to hindi lang dapat plan a dapat may plan b at pag pumalpak plan b dapat may plan c but all those plan in the end hindi nangyare still nag plaplano ako before pero walang nangyare ni isa either nasira yung plan ko dahil sa plan ng iba o walang chance walang time

 

[low-key]

I'm please to see you are well versed, pero napapansin ko you tend to overdo it.
Relax ka lang dyan... may Jesu-Cristo tayo.
Recall mo ang 7 last words. Sino ang kauna-unahang tao na naka-akyat sa langit? Diba si Dimas, isang magnanakaw. All his life eh magnanakaw sya. Ni hindi na nga sya nagkaroon ng pagkakataon na ituwid ang kamalian nya, but he felt the guilt, he repented and accepted Christ and that's all it took.

wait dimas? hindi ako aware sa verse na yan boss anong chapter yan? unang tao naka akyat sa langit? all i know was Christ and no man after him considered as tao si christ at the same time not really just like Christ describe him being God he told us he is before abraham and told us the one who sent him is greater than he is

 

[low-key]

Kung di pa sapat ang explanation ko and you still feel very, very bad na nagkakasala ka maybe araw-araw or perhaps oras-oras ng buhay mo then I'd say bumalik ka sa katoliko, araw-araw pwede ka mangumpisal sa pari at maghugas ng iyong kasalanan. That is if it really matters so much to you.

misunderstanding naman most it eh
di rin ako pwedeng bumalik sa catholic dahil sa tingin ko mali turo nila ako nga na mislead nung bata ako mga ibang bata pa kaya hindi i also detest catholic church head nag babasa ba talaga sila o nagbubulagbulagan na tulad ng ginawa these past few weeks

 

[ravage]

wait dimas? hindi ako aware sa verse na yan boss anong chapter yan? unang tao naka akyat sa langit? all i know was Christ and no man after him considered as tao si christ at the same time not really just like Christ describe him being God he told us he is before abraham and told us the one who sent him is greater than he is

Forget about Dimas, kinuha ko lang yan sa pasyon ng katoliko, katoliko ang nagpangalan sa kanya na Dimas. Basta sa verse ng bible Luke 23:29-43, sya yung isa sa kriminal na na-crucify kasama ni Jesus.

Luke 23:39-43

[39] One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: "Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us!"

[40] But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence? [41] We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."

[42] Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom."

[43] Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."


What's with you? You were a Catholic di ba? Bakit di mo alam ang istorya ni dimas?
Maybe that is the real problem with you, masyado ka siguro bookish na kahit ipaliwanag sayo ng pari, presbitero, ministro o kung ano man tawag mo sa head of the congregation na kinaaniban mo... you tend to check every passage and every verses kung tugma sa sinabi nung nagsalita at pag wala dun then you have your own way to not believe or even contradict them. So may tendency ka na kahit saan ka sect pumunta eh maaring para sa iyo puro mali ang sinasabi nila. For you are the god of yourself.
They said that the bible was edited more than 500 times, may mga ibang congregation nagtanggal ng books dyan, others have explained them using midrash ng kung sino-sinong historians and philisophers. So I understand it's hard for you to tell kung sino ang nagsasabi ng totoo or kung sino ang hindi because you have your own way of interpreting kung ano nilalaman ng bible. But if you have a personal relationship with God and you know God then you will not have to worry about your missing fear in HIM.
Dalawa lang ang nakikita ko na hindi takot sa Diyos, one is yung hindi naniniwala sa Diyos at yung isa eh yung sa tingin nila eh mabuti sila at hindi nagkakasala. Yung mga sinasabi ni Hesus na mga hipokrito. I don't believe that you're either of the two... and I find you interesting.
Paki-pm mo nga sa akin ang name mo, kahit first name lang. I will pray for you. If you cannot or will not listen to any word I say or any words people from other congregation says. Then perhaps you will listen to HIM when He reveals HIMSELF to you... that is if HE answers my prayers of course. And the prayers of the many.

 

[ravage]

Hmmmm.... it seem we two have something in common, ako kasi eh may tendency din na maging perfectionist... yung idea ko ng "heaven on earth". Para sa akin dapat lahat maayos, and it shows in the way I moderate people and managae this site. But it always turns out that I'm doing my way according to what I want, not according to Gods way and what He wants.